Danny Roddy slams Paleo on Matt Stone's Blog page 4

[eKatherine]

How hard is this diet(mine for example when I started at first):

4 quarts of milk, 2 quarts of orange juice, 10oz or more of cheese, 1-2lbs of dates, 28oz of haagen daz daily, lots of salt, some bakers chocolate, 8oz of beef liver every week, butter, coconut oil, coffee, supplemental sugar(in coffee, milk, orange juice, and even on my cheese) gummy bears, mexican coke, blackstrap molasses.

I don't even cook any of that stuff

4 quarts of milk
2 quarts of orange juice
10 oz or more of cheese
1.5 lbs of dates
28 oz of haagen daz
2 oz bakers chocolate
1.5 oz of beef liver
1T butter
1 oz coconut oil
supplemental sugar(in coffee, milk, orange juice, and even on my cheese) (1/4 cup daily)
gummy bears (2oz)
mexican coke (2 servings/day)
blackstrap molasses (2 oz)

Totally impressive. For how long were you consuming almost 10,000 calories a day?

Fat(g) Carbs(g) Prot(g) KCals
411.42 1296.35 258.85 9811

Hey friend, I do feel very energetic and quite good. Waking up is only hard because my job is so boring. I just salt to taste, my diet has changed a bit from then though. I would say I get an additional 2tbsp of salt per day. I'm quite fond of salt on very water dense fruit like watermelon, which also works if you prefer more solid food.

So you put more than an ounce of salt on your food in addition to that which it already contains? Impressive.

[magnolia1973]

Funny thing though, the forums (and the blogsphere) focus on the reletively unimportant 10%.

I think people think they are special when they eat in a special way. It's also super fun to one-up people on the strictness and difficulty of your chosen diet.

[Neckhammer]

Funny thing though, the forums (and the blogsphere) focus on the reletively unimportant 10%.

Well everyones trying to carve out a niche market. Roddy sells people who didn't obtain the everlasting enery and superpowers they where looking for with VLC paleo the high carb dream. Stone sells the "junk food won't kill ya" dream to orthorexic hyperdieters.

There are many many many people that do absolutely GREAT on low carb paleo, but then they think hey if low carbs this good NO carb must be even better! I actually think Roddy reported this being his experience. So they go no carb and get pissed when it doesn't work out for them. Then they track down Peat and Stone and the like and the pendulum swings to the other extreme.

Lets face it. This paleo/primal stuff ain't all that hard and its been said best and repeatedly by several authors already. Eat meat, vegetables, fruit, tubers, nuts and seeds. One sentence. Done! Throw in the carb curve to deter people from becoming fruititarians and you got yourself a plan of what and how much to eat.

[Zach]

Fuck the carb curve!

Otherwise i agree with everyone.

[Timthetaco]

Lets face it. This paleo/primal stuff ain't all that hard and its been said best and repeatedly by several authors already. Eat meat, vegetables, fruit, tubers, nuts and seeds. One sentence. Done!

And every one of those categories has a caveat. Mark limits fruits by glycemic index and carb content, as well as tubers. Everything is limited by omega-6 content (especially meat), nuts and seeds have phytic acid along with omega-6, and remember kids, you don't need that much fiber. Except a BAS is basically meat and fiber.

It is an easy diet to follow when you don't limit yourself like that, but almost everyone does. You can't begrudge people attempting to optimize when they're following a diet specifically advertised to promote optimal health. :/

[Derpamix]

4 quarts of milk
2 quarts of orange juice
10 oz or more of cheese
1.5 lbs of dates
28 oz of haagen daz
2 oz bakers chocolate
1.5 oz of beef liver
1T butter
1 oz coconut oil
supplemental sugar(in coffee, milk, orange juice, and even on my cheese) (1/4 cup daily)
gummy bears (2oz)
mexican coke (2 servings/day)
blackstrap molasses (2 oz)

Totally impressive. For how long were you consuming almost 10,000 calories a day?

Fat(g) Carbs(g) Prot(g) KCals
411.42 1296.35 258.85 9811



So you put more than an ounce of salt on your food in addition to that which it already contains? Impressive.

Your fat and calorie count is slightly off, I ate low fat cheese and drank skim raw milk. And I'd say about 2 weeks before it was too expensive. I was recovering from nearly starving to death on a diet of meat and vegetables.

I consume about 3-5k now though, depends on how hungry I am.

And there isn't much natural sodium available in fruit and orange juice. Sodium is an essential compound. With increased fluids and potassium via fruit and juice consumption brings need for increased sodium, especially in those with a low metabolism.