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    Can Grains Make You Crazy?

    I had an interesting experience recently. Because some of the best sources of manganese are grains and legumes, which we eliminate when eating paleo, I got the silly idea I should supplement manganese. A few days after starting the supplements I started having severe anxiety and sometimes full blown panic attacks. I am normally a pretty mellow person so this was very unusual for me. One day it was so bad I thought I was losing my mind and became severely depressed. I read up on manganese and realized the dose was too high. High doses can cause neurological problems. The term "neurological" normally applies to the physical side of the nervous system, such as coordination, memory issues, sense of touch, etc. But surely the the brain and behavior are part of the nervous system? I quit taking the manganese and after a few days felt much more myself. But it made me wonder if people who have anxiety, depression, or other mood or behavioral issues are people who eat large quantities of manganese-rich foods, e.g. grains. Not to pick on vegetarians but, as an example, I have known some who were awfully moody and edgy. Non-paleo vegetarians often eat a lot of legumes and grain combinations instead of meat to get their complete proteins, so they may be consuming more manganese than the average person. If I ate beans and rice every meal everyday could I go crazy?
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    Apparently, based on two of our new "posters."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoanieL View Post
    Apparently, based on two of our new "posters."
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoanieL View Post
    Apparently, based on two of our new "posters."
    Hmm? I think I've missed something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnivara View Post
    Hmm? I think I've missed something.
    Sorry, we were sharing a snicker about some of the latest posters who seem bent on confusing people and generally being argumentative by militantly advocating against the very core of primal eating. People coming on MDA preaching that grains and sugar are health foods would be like me going on a vegan site and telling them all that they should be eating meat. Yes, it would be under my free speech rights to do so but why would I want to?

    To answer your question seriously, there is some very good evidence about the connection between a wheat based diet and neurological/emotional disorders. I started a thread here a while back on behalf of a friend of mine who suffers from depression and got some interesting feedback. I will try to dig that one up for you.

    Here you go: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread26139.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleobird View Post
    Sorry, we were sharing a snicker about some of the latest posters who seem bent on confusing people and generally being argumentative by militantly advocating against the very core of primal eating. People coming on MDA preaching that grains and sugar are health foods would be like me going on a vegan site and telling them all that they should be eating meat. Yes, it would be under my free speech rights to do so but why would I want to?

    To answer your question seriously, there is some very good evidence about the connection between a wheat based diet and neurological/emotional disorders. I started a thread here a while back on behalf of a friend of mine who suffers from depression and got some interesting feedback. I will try to dig that one up for you.

    Here you go: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread26139.html
    I came to be argumentative, but I stayed because of you Paleobird. Your smile brightens my day. So, yes, I am crazy. Crazy about you. It's not the grains making me that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpamix View Post
    I came to be argumentative, but I stayed because of you Paleobird. Your smile brightens my day. So, yes, I am crazy. Crazy about you. It's not the grains making me that way.
    I <3 you too, Derpy!

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    Vegetarians and vegans are cranky because they typically get little to no fat or cholesterol in their diet, which is a major part for brain development and cell communication. I'm sure wheat is not good for you but to claim it makes you crazy is overreaching it. For some people with high food sensitivities, maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damiana View Post
    Vegetarians and vegans are cranky because they typically get little to no fat or cholesterol in their diet, which is a major part for brain development and cell communication. I'm sure wheat is not good for you but to claim it makes you crazy is overreaching it. For some people with high food sensitivities, maybe.
    I agree that it is not all about the wheat. The lack of fat is indeed critical. The inflammatory factor of wheat doesn't help any though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damiana View Post
    Vegetarians and vegans are cranky because they typically get little to no fat or cholesterol in their diet, which is a major part for brain development and cell communication.
    In my past life, when I was on a low-fat, low-carb, high-protein diet (gasp), I was pissed at the world and hungry all the time. It was a punishment, and hey, healthy food should be punishment, right?! Phfft.

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