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    Is "Getting Ripped" Even Healthy?

    I know getting ripped is an obsession for lots of guys. I can totally understand where it comes from, as I myself am working to get more muscular, but the concept of "getting ripped" sounds like body engineering to fine tune yourself to 8 to 12 percent body fat.

    If you get lean naturally from working out and eating correctly, that's cool. It just seems that aiming to get ripped can leave you gaunt and wiry, which I'm guessing is not very good for you.

    Maybe I'm wrong?

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    I think that some people on here are trying to lose weight/gain muscle for essentially cosmetic or vanity reasons.

    Functional strength and fitness is important though. That's what I'm shooting for, along with balanced hormones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmerl View Post
    I think that some people on here are trying to lose weight/gain muscle for essentially cosmetic or vanity reasons.

    Functional strength and fitness is important though. That's what I'm shooting for, along with balanced hormones.
    +1.

    I find muscular people with a normal amount or moderate excess of body fat the most attractive and healthy-looking. This speaks health and vitality, while being relaxed. Lean muscle mass and functional strength and fitness override everything else as far as I am concerned.
    F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paleo-bunny View Post
    +1.

    I find muscular people with a normal amount or moderate excess of body fat the most attractive and healthy-looking. This speaks health and vitality, while being relaxed. Lean muscle mass and functional strength and fitness override everything else as far as I am concerned.
    You have a good point there. I noticed I like thin women, and even sometimes leaner women with an athletic build, but never a ripped woman. All of my lady friends told me the same thing. Most like a somewhat muscular man. But they don't like guys who are ripped (fatless).

    From an evolutionary standpoint this makes a lot of sense. We are attracted to members of the opposite sex that look healthy, that which will ensure better chances of survival of our offspring. Some fat is healthy because it is essential and indicates nourishment. None means you are sick from starving and too much is a sickness as well. A healthy partner means you will have someone around to help take care of the kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmerl View Post
    I think that some people on here are trying to lose weight/gain muscle for essentially cosmetic or vanity reasons.

    Functional strength and fitness is important though. That's what I'm shooting for, along with balanced hormones.
    I agree with all. The vanity part is easy and can be taken care of with as little as one workout per week, believe it or not. But for overall health and well being, I believe you need a lot more.

    As for the hormones, I believe that dieting too hard for too long can have a negative impact on hormones. That's why its better to have an aim to maintain. That is as opposed to how competitive bodybuilders will walk around heavier most of the year only to drop 50 lbs for a contest, and then they gain it all back again. That's stupid. I'd rather be lean all year long.

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    I've never understood six packs. That doesn't seem natural. Why in nature would you have such a thing?

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    In defense of the lean, I've had a single digit body fat percentage for a couple years now and I think it's great. I eat plenty of healthy foods and I workout five days a week. I feel great and my lifestyle works for me. I'm not saying that you everyone needs to be super lean but what's unhealthy about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemonized View Post
    In defense of the lean, I've had a single digit body fat percentage for a couple years now and I think it's great. I eat plenty of healthy foods and I workout five days a week. I feel great and my lifestyle works for me. I'm not saying that you everyone needs to be super lean but what's unhealthy about it?
    If your lean mass is higher than average then I would not question that you are healthy. I believe lean mass to be a key indicator of health.
    F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemonized View Post
    In defense of the lean, I've had a single digit body fat percentage for a couple years now and I think it's great. I eat plenty of healthy foods and I workout five days a week. I feel great and my lifestyle works for me. I'm not saying that you everyone needs to be super lean but what's unhealthy about it?
    Now that I think about it, I'm glad that I have always strived to become leaner. Because right now while even being above average in muscularity, my BMI is slightly over 25 which isn't that bad, but my waist is still wider than it should be. And that's an indicater (even more so than BMI) that one needs to try to drop some fat. I probably have more fat than what it seems, because there is visceral fat hiding behind my abs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rimam1 View Post
    I know getting ripped is an obsession for lots of guys. I can totally understand where it comes from, as I myself am working to get more muscular, but the concept of "getting ripped" sounds like body engineering to fine tune yourself to 8 to 12 percent body fat.

    If you get lean naturally from working out and eating correctly, that's cool. It just seems that aiming to get ripped can leave you gaunt and wiry, which I'm guessing is not very good for you.

    Maybe I'm wrong?

    Raza
    Being between 8 - 12 % bodyfat for a male or 16 - 14 % for a woman is very healthy IMO. A male would be "ripped" I guess around 5 - 6 % and below, and thats not always healthy, but it may to a certain degree also depend on the person. Right now after finishing 4 weeks of dieting down, I dwell around 8/9 % and I am planning to stay that way...

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