'sleeping fast' vs 'waking fast'? page

[Jesster]

Is there any (fat loss) benefit to a fast from, say, 8pm until 1pm the next day over a fast from 7am until 7pm?

Would one burn more fat being active through the day, or does the body break down fat better at night?

[Sandamel]

I can't speak directly to your question about fat burning but I can tell you that when I fast I do like to be asleep for a large chunk of it. That makes it easier not to cave and end the fast early

[Zach]

No your body wont burn fat during sleep, it will run off stored glycogen.

[jakey]

wrong, your body will run off of glycogen and fat during sleep. in fact liver glycogen will only fuel the brain - that's it. the rest is fueled by palmitic acid.

as for the benefits, vis a vis fat loss, you'll likely burn more fat while being awake, simply because you're moving more.

[Dr. Bork Bork]

I find it's easiest to sleep fast. A 16 hour IF is a breeze when you eat dinner at 6 in the evening, and then nothing until 10 or noon the next day!

[Zach]

wrong, your body will run off of glycogen and fat during sleep. in fact liver glycogen will only fuel the brain - that's it. the rest is fueled by palmitic acid.

as for the benefits, vis a vis fat loss, you'll likely burn more fat while being awake, simply because you're moving more.

I believe the body creates palmitic acid from stored glycogen, it does not liberate FFA's to run on.

[yodiewan]

I believe the body creates palmitic acid from stored glycogen, it does not liberate FFA's to run on.

I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure that's not how it works. From what I've read, glycogen is used for short bursts of activity or for tissues that preferentially burn it like the brain and red blood cells.

I'm fairly certain that most of the fat burned during an extended fast comes from adipose tissue. It is liberated vis lipolysis.

It just wouldn't make sense to convert glycogen into palmitic acid. I don't even think it's possible since glycogen is just basically glucose. Even if it was possible, it would require more energy input than was generated by it.

[sbhikes]

We are all fasting as we sleep, once any food has been digested. That is why the first meal is called break-fast. I think it is beneficial for fat loss to use the sleepinh hours because you will get more hours of fasting more easily than white-knuckling it through a long, hungry day. Also, how else are you going to get a 20+ hour fast in if some of it isn't while you sleep?

[Earthy Mama]

Doing it during sleep just sounds much easier, at least for those who've never IF before. I can see how you'd burn more during the day, but I don't see there being an incredibly huge difference between night and day IF.

[RichMahogany]

We are all fasting as we sleep, once any food has been digested. That is why the first meal is called break-fast. I think it is beneficial for fat loss to use the sleepinh hours because you will get more hours of fasting more easily than white-knuckling it through a long, hungry day. Also, how else are you going to get a 20+ hour fast in if some of it isn't while you sleep?

Yeah, it's hard to do anything that even qualifies as a fast without it encompassing some awake time and some sleep time. I agree with using the timing to your advantage. I like to break the fast later in the day, so I wake up already in a fasted state and not feeling hungry and just don't eat until the afternoon.