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  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2011

    "Strict" Diet - Bad?

    I disagree with some posts I've seen, where people say it is not "healthy" in a way, to follow the paleo (or any) diet too strictly, and that it will lead to more stress.

    When I eat grains, dairy, or a little too many carbs, I get acne, bloating, dry skin, digestive problems... Is vehemently avoiding these things stressing me out? Hell no, it's just the opposite. Eating these things give me pain, both physical and psychological (e.g. anxiety from acne).

    And I know some are even more "precise" with their diets, calculating both macro and micro nutrients, finding out the specifics, and striving for a "perfect" diet for themselves. Even that, is completely fine. Obviously if someone is doing this, they see/feel a reward from it.

    I imagine those that are against "strict" diets, often have problems with their own indulgences, and can't imagine anyone giving them up without it being painful. And in this way, they sort of rationalize one of their own faults.

    Last edited by Bosnic; 12-08-2012 at 06:07 PM.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    I agree.

    It's just sad when the only "con" that some nutritionist can come up with for a low-carb or paleo diet is "People find it difficult to remove a whole food group."

    Even more stupid is when they go on to worry about missing out on all the "fortified" foods. Like they never heard of the fact that actual food can contain actual nutrition.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Edmonton Canada
    You are spot on....grains are not needed unless you are addicted to the sugar hit or need the extra calories from rice.

    This site Nutrition Facts and Analysis for Wheat flour, whole-grain links to USDA information data and is show how inflammatory grains are.

    The next time they someone says you are depriving yourself look at your plate full of clourful veg and big ribeye then look at their plate of grey tasteless grains, cut off a piece of rare steak and say "yes it is all about depriving oneself"
    Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    I think that people mistake paleo/primal for being "strict". Being a macrobiotic raw vegan is strict. Being paleo/primal is just about avoiding junk foods, plus grains and most dairy. Really, all you are doing is "skipping the bread" in a lot of instances. Like having a steak with brocolli and having a sweet potato instead of a roll is pretty much the difference between primal and a lot of meals.

    I think people just freak out becausethey can't imagine giving up bread. I was telling someone today about primal. She was shocked I didn't miss bread... I told her the ability to eat an 8 ounce portion of steak more than made up for having to skip something that now reminds me of eating a dried out sponge.
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  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    central FL
    All of the above...

    I was recently in a thread discussing the Whole 30 and discovered that I essentially LIVE just barely outside those 'rules'.
    And not by much.
    I think that many people would think my diet "very strict" if they new every detail.
    I know it is much stricter than many, many, other peoples on this forum, but it meets my personal, and very individual, needs.
    Yet I never feel deprived or stressed, quite the opposite actually.
    I eat when I want to eat, and I don't measure or count anything.
    I feel satisfied with and by my food.
    I feel healthier than I have in years, and the way I eat helps to control my medical issues.
    AND I'm losing weight slowly and healthily too.

    Why would I find my "strict" Primal diet "BAD" under those circumstances?
    “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
    ~Friedrich Nietzsche
    And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Appalachian Ohio
    You get another agreement from me.

    I have two daughters with diet issues and now I am Primal as well (our diet needs overlap massively), and we all have a relaxed attitude to it all. It does not bind us, it frees us - to be healthy. My daughters would not be doing as well as they do today with "cheats" or "20%" or whatever you call it; in fact, they would never have found healing in the first place if we had not have been as consequent as we were, and even I can tell the difference in my personal health between toeing the line closely and screwing around too much with the plan.

    I can't postulate why some seem to kind of hate on those who do things by the book (or stricter) as I am no psychologist, but IMHO if you don't follow a plan pretty much in its original form, soon the plan gets so blurry with everybody's personal little exceptions that it isn't its own definite thing anymore and it just kind of stretches and oozes out so much that it becomes, well, nothing, instead of the Something it once was.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Some people just don't like their paradigm challenged.
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  8. #8
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    Jun 2010
    Sydney, NSW
    Agree wholeheartedly.

    I also have little sympathy for the cultural argument that you have to eat crap on specific occasions. I don't and I haven't broken any relationships because of it. The other day a good friend had his leaving lunch at a pasta place. I ate my BAS in the office then joined them and had a coffee. Too easy
    Four years Primal with influences from Jaminet & Shanahan and a focus on being anti-inflammatory. Using Primal to treat CVD and prevent stents from blocking free of drugs.

    Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Auckland, New Zealand
    Hmmm... some people thrive on strict, others find it repressive. I guess it depends on your health conditions and psychology. A bit like the difference between my dad and me. He loves spending hours finding ways of saving every cent. He brags that he and his wife share a tea bag! LOL. That is pure stress to me. I like a little luxury in my life. For me, that doesn't include bread because it makes me feel bad, but I'm a bit more flexible about some of the other stuff.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    New Zealand
    Here's the thing. My diet has been considered "extreme" for years. I'm really over it.

    I have always had a preference for healthy food -- fruit over candy, veg over grains/etc. So as a teen, my diet was "extreme" because I didn't eat a lot of "junk foods" like normal teens. It was "unhealthy!"

    Then, I went veg*n. I was vegan. It was extreme. It was unhealthy! I enjoyed it, and I tinkered so that I stayed healthy.

    Then I went paleo. It is extreme! It is unhealthy!

    End of the day, I'm just happy eating as I do. It works really nicely. I can't believe how healthy I am.

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