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    Researchers say dieting not worth it

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    People don't lose that much weight or improve cardiovascular health:
    A. Janet Tomiyama: Is Dieting Worth the Trouble?

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    Lol at the changing definitions of weight loss success.


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    Yeah, we can't get people to lose enough weight to see if there's any impact on cardivascular health, so let's just say it's not worth trying. I'd still be 185lbs with a 5% weight loss. I don't need a study to tell me that would have had almost zero impact on me physically. Nutrition science is full of the most idiotic research...
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    Funny, it takes the average smoker eight tries to quit. But no one ever says it's not worth it when they relapse seven times. And yes, I know a lot of people who quit on their very first try, but perhaps that's because most people don't brag about "failure."

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    Isn't the bigger problem the "diet" mindset... that whatever they are going to do is temporary.

    I just have to quit eating "x" foods until I lose "x" lbs.

    People don't need "diets"... they need long term dietary changes. Life changes.
    “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
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    And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.


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    Cori, as a person who has had to lose weight three times in her life, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Like criminals, who are often caught because they don't plan the "after" of a crime, I think "dieters" (or at least me) rebound because we don't plan the "after" for when we reach goal weight. I have finally learned (I hope).

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    @cori and JoanieL: http://alicerants.blog.com/2012/10/27/against-diets/
    My view on the dreaded "diet".

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    yeah, a lot of people who quit on their very first try, but perhaps that's because most people don't brag about "failure."

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    "Although the trial led to improved quality of life, decreases in sleep apnea, reduced need for diabetes medication, and delayed physical disability, it did not achieve its most important objective of fewer strokes, heart attacks, or cardiovascular deaths."

    Why on earth would you "give up" on something that has so many OTHER benefits, even if the main goal wasn't realised? Evidently if people have a better quality of life after losing weight, that's something to be happy about even if the incidence of cardiac events weren't reduced (but to me that's probably because they lost weight the CW way and were eating "healthy" polyunsaturated oils and margarines etc.).

    To me the whole study is just another example of how people have been getting it all wrong for so many years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Fireling View Post
    "Although the trial led to improved quality of life, decreases in sleep apnea, reduced need for diabetes medication, and delayed physical disability, it did not achieve its most important objective of fewer strokes, heart attacks, or cardiovascular deaths."

    Why on earth would you "give up" on something that has so many OTHER benefits, even if the main goal wasn't realised? Evidently if people have a better quality of life after losing weight, that's something to be happy about even if the incidence of cardiac events weren't reduced (but to me that's probably because they lost weight the CW way and were eating "healthy" polyunsaturated oils and margarines etc.).

    To me the whole study is just another example of how people have been getting it all wrong for so many years!
    Its the failings of our current scientific method. If you weren't looking for it it doesn't matter. If the the experiment was to study the effects of diet on cardiovascular markers (usually not even the right ones) and you saw no effect then the diet was a fail. Forget about the quality of life, better sleep, less meds and so on ....that wasn't what we were studying! Heck I'm surprised they even gave that stuff an honorable mention! Usually they just bury those "side effects" of a healthy lifestyle and report "no significant change in cardio markers".

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