Chief Rok knows more then anyone on fat loss, including Sisson, Stephen,etc page 10

[Zach]

Sure there are lots of factors in health which I agree with...lol...but given the choice of eating high nutrition foods vs low nutrition foods just to get a sugar hit is daft.
Adding the high sugar grain instead of protein is also daft, if you want to limit the healthy protein and fat add an extra helping of veg which comes with nutrition along with calories.
Grains are inflammatory AND produce very poor lipo-protein levels...sigh...wrong forum for you to troll on I am afraid.

Hey, you may very well find out exactly what i am talking about in the future much to your dismay. But until then, grok on!

[Dirlot]

You are promoting eating empty calories which is daft on all levels.

[Zach]

Yes sometimes empty calories can be good for you. Hard to understand, i know.

[Dirlot]

Oh please oh troll enlighten us fools who think nutrition is important for health and shovelling spoonfuls of sugar is a bad thing?

[Daydreamer]

What...? Matt Stone looks good. He's definitely in shape and in good health.

112bw – 180 Degree Health
http://180degreehealth.com/wp-conten...attStone_2.jpg

http://freetheanimal.com/images/2010...fore-After.png
http://180degreehealth.com/wp-conten...me-224x300.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6...aebff3b3_z.jpg
Early Puberty - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fudv7...lkw5JM6JyDIxSQ

You're the judge but to me he looks puffy.

Hebsie, are you the same Hebsie who post on All Things Male ? I'm on there to solve my hypopituitarism problems, glad to see you here

Oh and, I'm eating moderate carbs, high fat, high proteins paleo, I don't consider that I'm "dieting", and my CRP are very very very very very very low, so no inflammation here.

[Zach]

Oh please oh troll enlighten us fools who think nutrition is important for health and shovelling spoonfuls of sugar is a bad thing?

I think i already gave a good scenario in my last post. Also i never said nutrition wasnt important, i think you are misusing the word.

Its natural to be angry when confronted with a conflicting point of view but try to take the blinders off for a minute and reread what i wrote.

[Derpamix]

http://freetheanimal.com/images/2010...fore-After.png
http://180degreehealth.com/wp-conten...me-224x300.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6...aebff3b3_z.jpg
Early Puberty - YouTube
What Causes Diabetes? - YouTube

You're the judge but to me he looks puffy.

Hebsie, are you the same Hebsie who post on All Things Male ? I'm on there to solve my hypopituitarism problems, glad to see you here

Oh and, I'm eating moderate carbs, high fat, high proteins paleo, I don't consider that I'm "dieting", and my CRP are very very very very very very low, so no inflammation here.

Maybe those are old pictures I linked then. Dunno, didn't really look very far into what he looks like since I couldn't care less. He still doesn't look bad(aside from that god awful hairstyle in the first picture, yeesh)

[hebsie]

Hebsie, are you the same Hebsie who post on All Things Male ? I'm on there to solve my hypopituitarism problems, glad to see you here

...the one and the same. And I recognized the 'theme' in your login name(s) right away

[Graycat]

Grains might have been a staple in many people's diets for thousands of years, but I'm positive the grains consumed today (GMOed wheat) are nothing like the grains nature intended. There's simply no comparison.

[Alex]

It's funny that you say...

Carbs aren't the enemy, they aren't an amazing friend either.

... immediately followed by links to pictures of people (described as lean and strong) that get the majority of their calories from carbohydrates.

I turned my back on carbs once and they still welcomed me back WARMLY when I was at the depths of my health blues. Carbs and I are tight.