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[Jmagic]

I think that a lot of people take the wrong approach when they set out on a diet. In my opinion, one shouldn't just arbitrarily add fat to a meal for the sake of eating "moar fat". The idea is that you should no longer be afraid of eating fats. Eating fatty pieces of meat and whole eggs should alone fulfill your fat requirements for the day.

Adding stuff like full fat yogurt, cream, butter (in excess), etc to all of your meals is a very easy way to over consume calories. Must you have cream in your tea? Can you drink it straight? Eat only 2-3 meals a day with no snacking and drink lots of water.

[Shelly6]

Roast your vegetables, but make sure that starchy vegetables are minimal, and most of your vegetables are non-starchy (like every kind of cabbage, eggplants, zucchinis, green beans, celery, leeks and peppers rather than beets, carrots, turnips and potatoes).

Wait a sec. I thought green beans were considered legumes, not vegetables, and weren't really a "Primal" food? Or am I completely wrong?
Please tell me I'm wrong, because I do love green beans.

[zoebird]

I think that green beans constitute a grey area in the old primal world. In a perfect world, we would avoid them, but they are so affordable that we eat them, and since we are eating more pod than bean, i think it works out in the wash. i think mark even had a blog about it around here somewhere . . .

[JoPaleo]

Try this instead:

Breakfast
4oz meat (beef, ground beef, liver, salmon, eggs, chicken)
As much vegetables as you want

Lunch
4oz meat (beef, ground beef, liver, salmon, eggs, chicken)
As much vegetables as you want

Dinner
4oz meat (beef, ground beef, liver, salmon, eggs, chicken)
As much vegetables as you want
A small sweet potato
butter if you need it

You can thank me later.

+100000!! This is my meal plan and it works for me.

[Romana]

Gosh, some people are a little harsh on here! I think when people ask for advice, it's not kind to berate them for 'whining'. This forum is for sharing tips, isn't it?

Thank you for all your advice though. Yesterday evening, I came in from a run, saw all your advice, followed it and I honestly feel better! It's amazing Finger crossed I will be seeing results in the next month or so!

I had some eggs with veggies this morning for my breakfast and a tiny bit of cream in my tea instead of milk. But I am definitely cutting out most dairy from now on (no yogurt or cheese, just some cream in my tea...I really don't enjoy black tea and tea is vital to my life!!). Now that I think about it, I can see how dairy is probably one of the main culprits.

[Shelly6]

I think that green beans constitute a grey area in the old primal world. In a perfect world, we would avoid them, but they are so affordable that we eat them, and since we are eating more pod than bean, i think it works out in the wash. i think mark even had a blog about it around here somewhere . . .

Gotcha. I would imagine if someone has their own vegetable garden and grows/cans their own, that would be more Primal friendly?

[JoPaleo]

Gosh, some people are a little harsh on here! I think when people ask for advice, it's not kind to berate them for 'whining'. This forum is for sharing tips, isn't it?

Thank you for all your advice though. Yesterday evening, I came in from a run, saw all your advice, followed it and I honestly feel better! It's amazing Finger crossed I will be seeing results in the next month or so!

I had some eggs with veggies this morning for my breakfast and a tiny bit of cream in my tea instead of milk. But I am definitely cutting out most dairy from now on (no yogurt or cheese, just some cream in my tea...I really don't enjoy black tea and tea is vital to my life!!). Now that I think about it, I can see how dairy is probably one of the main culprits.

No kidding. Putting people down does not help anyone. Good luck Romana! Sounds like you're figuring this out.
: )

[Leida]

Beans and peas as pods are considered vegetables, while dry beans and peas are considered legumes. There is no restriction on green beans and peas as vegetables in the modern paleo and primal. Only legumes. Even with the legumes, plenty of authors that are close in their philosophy to the paleo and primal, such as Ferris and Hyman suggest legumes as valuable food source. Properly prepared, legumes can be a part of a primal and paleo diet, more valuable than nuts imo, since they share the same flaws as nuts, but carry FAR more beneficial satiation index. I believe if one made a decision to consume tubers, skipping legumes is a hang-over from the initial Paleo days when no starch was allowed, even radishes. I find it odd that people consider eating chocolate (as long as it is >70%) and drinking wine primal, but soaking and eating legumes as non-primal.

EDIT: That's said, just like beets and potatoes, I would avoid mixing legumes with high fat load and reserve them for the lean protein and high carb days.

[shep68]

Gosh, some people are a little harsh on here! I think when people ask for advice, it's not kind to berate them for 'whining'. This forum is for sharing tips, isn't it?

Thank you for all your advice though. Yesterday evening, I came in from a run, saw all your advice, followed it and I honestly feel better! It's amazing Finger crossed I will be seeing results in the next month or so!

I had some eggs with veggies this morning for my breakfast and a tiny bit of cream in my tea instead of milk. But I am definitely cutting out most dairy from now on (no yogurt or cheese, just some cream in my tea...I really don't enjoy black tea and tea is vital to my life!!). Now that I think about it, I can see how dairy is probably one of the main culprits.

Yeah, some folks around here were weaned on sour pickles. For a healthy (happy) living website there are plenty of d-bags that like to chime in. Ignore them, ask your questions and keep at it. I for one hope you succeed!

[Silvergirl]

As well as Mark's primal blueprint book. My Son also bought me the book "It starts with food" that solidified for me about what I should be eating and how, and started me on the path of not trying to substitute old favourites, but make new, healthier ones. I would recommend both. doing the whole 30 I finally realized I just can't tolerate eggs or dairy, not fun eggs and dairy, particularly together were one of my absolute favourite things