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    When Primal goes too far!!!!

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    Im new here, but im interested in a topic that I couldn't find after searching for it.

    WHEN PRIMAL GOES TO FAR!!!

    Stories, theories, and ideas you have heard of people, or even yourself applying the primal lifestyle and taking it to an unrealistic level. On this forum, in the gym, your friends, family and fellow Groks and Groketts.

    You got stories, I WANNA HEAR EM!

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    I think there is a thread now about Grok and masturbation.

    So, yeah - it goes too far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goosejuggler View Post
    I think there is a thread now about Grok and masturbation.

    So, yeah - it goes too far.
    wow, gold off of the start... so spill it, do we do it too much or too little? =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goosejuggler View Post
    I think there is a thread now about Grok and masturbation.

    So, yeah - it goes too far.
    I don't see that as going too far. Ejaculation has a huge impact on our hormone levels, among other things. It's another health topic to be taken into consideration.

    Specifically asking how much paleolithic humans ejaculated is a bit weird, but what they mean to ask is "how much is healthiest".

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    It is going too far, but then people love to over-analyse. I say unless you're spanking it often enough to cause abrasions, then there is nothing to worry about.
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    For a lot of people, cutting out wheat is going too far.....
    Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goosejuggler View Post
    It is going too far, but then people love to over-analyse. I say unless you're spanking it often enough to cause abrasions, then there is nothing to worry about.
    For some guys it is harmful to their over all health. See yourbrainonporn.com

    Going too far is relative. Many primals see cutting or dairy as going too far but for some its necessary. And so on.

    It all comes down to how far you are going to go to achieve optimum health and life. Everyone has their own measure of what they are willing to do and for most going primal is already too far and for the Op I'm guessing primal is far enough.
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    I think going primal is something we should do for ourselves, not over think it, just go with it, and enjoy it. To me, it really is an enjoyable lifestyle (and not a diet) and I've noticed an upswing in many facets of my life after committing to this for just over a year.

    But for me, when primal goes wrong is when you (and I did) reach what I call the "paleo evangelist" stage. It's when you get twice as obnoxious as those vegans because what we do is against conventional wisdom. I've seen it happen in friends that have gone primal. Don't go on a crusade. The uninitiated won't believe you unless you tempt them with bacon, then they'll say you're just on Adkins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer37208 View Post
    But for me, when primal goes wrong is when you (and I did) reach what I call the "paleo evangelist" stage.
    I really like this ^^.

    I think it is normal, human, and good to wonder about absolutely anything and everything, from the profound to the just plain dumb and/or weird - how else does any new information come to us, but by someone wondering and then taking action to find out? So in that sense, there is no "too much".

    But at the same time, if everything is put to some "Is It Perfectly Primal?" test in regular daily life and food (for example) gets to be kind of like the new eating disorder term "orthorexia", then yeah, your behavior has become out of balance.

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    When you are comparing every single aspect of your everyday life to Grok, that's when it goes to far. We're not cavemen, and we never will be. To me, a "paleo lifestyle" is about optimizing everything I do (the food I eat, where I live, physical training, my job, my hobbies, etc) to make me feel happy and fulfilled. Sure, I eat potatoes and rice on occasion (exclusively as pre-endurance-activity fuel), and it makes me a better athlete. I don't think that makes me less primal than someone who doesn't eat them (because he/she isn't doing endurance sports).

    When you worry about macronutrient ratios to the point of OCD, that's going too far. It's one thing to read labels and watch out for shit like HFCS, but avoiding carrots because "omg carbs!" is ridiculous.

    For some people, I'd argue that when it affects your social life, then it's going to far ... but I'm a misanthropic bitch without much of a social life anyway so that one doesn't apply to me =)
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