Why are red kidneys beans the enemy in the primal diet? page

[Barefoot Gentile]

In the winter I make a lot of vegetarian soups and they load with red kidney beans. Also when I training for marathon/ultra-marathon the red kidney bean is my staple source of energy and protein. Especially when I get sick of eating dead animal carcass.

Mark doesn't go into detail in his book why the red kidney bean is an evil source of food? I have been eating them for 10 years without any issues.

[Tribal Rob]

Anything you have to soak for 12 hours and then boil the heck out of to remove enough toxins to make them eddible is a risk to eat as there are inevitably toxins left. No-one is gonna come round your house telling you you arn't in the paleo clubanymore and take yor membership card if you wanna eat then, just be aware they are not optimal and make you fart

[meeshar]

Yeah, kidney beans are one of the most toxic beans--they have a lectin called phytohaemagglutinin, which can poison you if they're not properly soaked and cooked long enough. The FDA even has a page on kidney bean poisoning. BBB - Phytohaemagglutinin

[bob loblaw]

If you don't feel bad, eat all the beans you want.

The bean hate is mostly due to what is in beans, rather than the effect beans have on people . IF beans effect you negatively, obviously don't eat them. But otherwise, I don't care what anyone says, logic says beans are fine.

From what I have found, eating beans seems to consistently correlate with good health. In Loma Linda, eating MORE beans consistently correlated with good outcomes. Now, these are obviously correlations, but given enough positive correlations, I'd rather go with that then some fear mongers who are worried about what is in beans.

An example of "bad stuff in good things" would be fruit. Fruit has fructose, which is bad in general. BUT, when eaten in fruit, is good overall. My guess is that it's the same with beans. The toxins in beans may be bad, but when eaten as a WHOLE FOOD, it doesn't seem to be bad in real life.

[bob loblaw]

Yeah, kidney beans are one of the most toxic beans--they have a lectin called phytohaemagglutinin, which can poison you if they're not properly soaked and cooked long enough. The FDA even has a page on kidney bean poisoning. BBB - Phytohaemagglutinin

Virtually everything can make you sick if prepared incorrectly. Go eat some raw pork, let's see how that works out for ya.

[EyeOfRound]

Virtually everything can make you sick if prepared incorrectly. Go eat some raw pork, let's see how that works out for ya.

But that's not the pork itself, it's the potential that it's contaminated with a parasite. Pork itself doesn't have anything poisonous in it.

[bob loblaw]

But that's not the pork itself, it's the potential that it's contaminated with a parasite. Pork itself doesn't have anything poisonous in it.

Fine. Nuts are often poisonous without proper preparation. So nuts are bad. (Even though most nuts consistently correlate with very good health.)

Once again, if beans give you ill effects, by all means don't eat them. But not eating a whole food because of supposed "toxins", with no actual scientific data or even correlative data showing it's bad for you, seems awfully silly to me. The data on beans seems overwhelmingly positive, please link me otherwise.

Note: I am not talking about gmo-soybeans or any gmo beans.

[sarasue624]

See meeshar's FDA link, above.

[ez2cy]

Tim Ferris of the 4 hour body, swears by eating beans.

go figure?

[Urban Forager]

Why are red kidneys beans the enemy in the primal diet?

Maybe because they are just plain boring. Try this experiment: cook some kidney beans w/o seasoning and taste them, now cook a ribeye w/o seasoning which is better?