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    14 year old girl here. Been trying to lose weight for about 1 year. Which I never thought that I'd have to do, because my activity level is so high. But, I;ve got grab-abble fat and it jingles when I run, and it's embarrassing.

    Lately I've been feeling absolutely terrible. Tired all the time, lost interest in my sport and just generally lonely. I know it's a part of growing up and stuff, but...

    So earlier this year I was on the calorie-counting, low-fat business. Then when I had only lost about 1 pound in 6 weeks whilst feeling fairly hungry I thought I wasn't being strict enough.

    Bring in the 2 week binge. I think I gained about 8 pounds. Then I just didn't care what I ate after that. I ate junk and stuff, but I didn't binge. Heavier and heavier I got.

    I heard about the paleo diet a few weeks later. At first I just disregarded it, I thought it was another faddy diet.

    Then I thought about it. After I heard about it, I couldn't forget about it. So, to cut a long story short (even though this will be quite long) I'm trying to eat paleo now, whilst trying to lose weight and continue with my sport. (the season is in full flow too, but I'm just not looking forward to it. I feel awful and I'm just not enjoying it.)

    So this is what I eat.

    Breakfast 7:30 AM: 3 eggs scrambled with 25g of grass-fed butter and 2 slices of bacon.

    Lunch 12:45 AM: a salad. Usually it's a handful of lettuce, half a carrot and some protein source, like 1 chicken breast or 1 tin of tuna, with some nuts. Maybe a piece of fruit after.

    When I get home and if no one's in, I usually scavenge for "paleo foods", i.e eating butter with a spoon, some nuts or some peanut butter (not paleo, but we can't find almond butter)

    Then I'll do training. I'm normally hungry after training, so I'll have dinner. Then I find that dinner isn't enough to truly satisfy me. When my mom isn't there, I'll grab a couple of biscuits, maybe some chocolate or something. Basically, it all goes out of the window at night.

    Basically, I need to lose weight. I also want to get better at sport and not feel tired. But I'm just so hungry. And I can't snack on anything that isn't paleo. My mom is also fat-phobic - lean meats in the salad, lean meats and steamed veg for tea. She buys the leanest meats possible, tells me to cut the fat off my bacon and to drain it, and tells me to use 10g of butter.

    So if I need more fat in my diet, I'm not sure how I'm going to do it. The only times I can get fat in is at breakfast, really.

    I've thought about waiting till the end of the season then going fully paleo for 2 months to see if I lose weight. I've thought about trying to do it now. But then I couldn't exercise for long because I wouldn't be keto-adapted. And I have to go to sports, because my parents have booked hotels and everything.

    I'm just not sure what to do anymore. It's stressing me out. (I know that's bad for you, too) if someone can please decipher this rambling and offer some advice, it would be greatly appreciated.



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    Try getting some more fat by drissling olive oil over your salads. Maybe your mom will agree with olive oil being healthy.
    Good snacks for at night are Nuts, olives, pieces of coconut. If you eat a small piece of dark chocolate with coconut it is like a primal bounty
    Great that you are already trying primal at your age

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    Ditch lean meats for fattier cuts like beef ribs, pork shoulder, and dark meat chicken. There's no point in eating dry chicken breast when you're already eating butter, eggs, and bacon. If you're scrounging for food then you aren't eating enough protein and fat in your meals. Your fat intake should make up at least more than 50% of your caloric intake. 2nd comes protein, then finish it off with veggies and leaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebrady98 View Post
    Then I'll do training. I'm normally hungry after training, so I'll have dinner. Then I find that dinner isn't enough to truly satisfy me. When my mom isn't there, I'll grab a couple of biscuits, maybe some chocolate or something. Basically, it all goes out of the window at night.
    I think that the nutshell for you is finding good 'go to' snack foods. What I find works for me is dark chocolate (the darker the better, even 70% cocoa tastes quite sweet to me now), fruit and nuts. Avoid the chocolate biscuits...

    A baked banana with melted chocolate and some cream is pretty awesome.
    Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

    Griff's cholesterol primer
    5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
    Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
    TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebrady98 View Post
    I've thought about waiting till the end of the season then going fully paleo for 2 months to see if I lose weight. I've thought about trying to do it now. But then I couldn't exercise for long because I wouldn't be keto-adapted. And I have to go to sports, because my parents have booked hotels and everything.
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    Remember that being on Paleo is NOT the same as being Keto-adapted. The guidelines for being keto adapted is of course slightly different between different people, but for most it will involve eating less than 50 g of carbs a day and to get about 80% of your caloric intake from fat.

    There are a few things you can do in order to have 'healthier' snack foods at home. Boil eggs en masse, and make sure to have some good leftovers in your fridge that you can heat up quickly. Ask your parents to buy avocado when they buy fruits, and experiment with different oils when you have your salads. Also, you should totally have a bigger salad :P

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    ebrady98 - you don't need to worry about calories or fat here. Your problem is the peanut butter. Once you've triggered the reward center in your brain it will nearly mandate that you keep on eating for the rest of the evening.

    Why do you think you need almond butter? Have some beef jerkey - preferably homemade - it's half the price and way better for you. Or any other paleo snack. Definitely stop trying to starve yourself.

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