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    Haha, eggs and bacon already eh? We've almost got you!

    I'm not as analytical as you so I haven't calculated the ratios, but what I discovered was I HAD to increase my fat intake, because one can only eat so much protein and if I increased the carbs then my sugar cravings returned. One of the things I like best about eating this way is NOT getting the shakes etc from wild swings in blood sugar.

    Fat is such a delicious way to avoid this problem, I can't get over it. Who wouldn't rather have bacon, cheese, nuts, cream, butter, dripping etc? I didn't eat much of these foods while losing weight, but now I need to and I enjoy every guilt free bite. Basically I aim for "enough" protein, "not too many" carbs, and "make up the rest" with fat (can be previously stored body fat, if available, haha).

    PS. Eggs taste even better in butter. You can save your olive oil for salads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfedei View Post
    If I were to follow the 50% rule on a 1800 calorie diet, that would mean that 900 calories should come from fat. That's a whopping 100 grams of fat per day!! I'm freaking out here!! Sorry to be so anal-ytical, but I gotttaaa know before I throw caution to the wind and jump in head first!
    Yes, I regularly am in the 50-70% of my daily calories from fat. Keep in mind though, that you want to avoid some types of fat, specifically fats high in processed poly unsaturated oils such as vegetable oils.

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    Olives are a nice snack as well.
    Your body loves fat as a fuel. If sugar was the best energy supply excess energy would be stored as sugar crystals not as fat. Don't worry about eating more fat.
    I lost 14 kilo in 4 months, skin is beter, 30 year problemen with lungs and sinusses is cleared, periode les painfull and more positive effects. Am 49, female hand was borderline obese.

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    Heya, I dont worry about fat, I eat a lot of meat, as much veggies as I can stomach in everything I cook and use oils and butter and bacon grease to cook with. If I get hungry too much I add extra but it is really not a thing I worry about. I am a poor working stiff, not like all the rest of these over paid yuppies that can afford grass fed organic beef. I eat the best I can though, fresh not prepacked meat etc and a lot of liver/kidney/heart.

    I hunt and forage for as much as I can.

    I take a glucosamine supplement a vit D supplement and a once a day general Vitamin. I dont do bone broth as my wife hates the smell. I dont eat enough Veg but I hate them with a passion so I count it enough that I eat some.
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    Yes I wouldn't worry about the percentages too much - you just need to find what you are happy with, go with your body and personalise your diet to suit you, within the overall framework of palo/primal obviously. Personally, I eat quite a lot of lean meats like chicken; eggs, fruit and veg as the main part of my diet, with fish and steak twice a week each. I don't eat dairy, so that is butter, milk and cream out - or at least only occasionally do I have milk and cream - you see it is different for everyone. I guess I am high in protein and moderate in both carbs (from fruit and veg only) and moderate in good fats. Just find your own way with what suits you.

    I've been eating like this for about two months now. Lost over a stone in weight, much leaner and fitter, more energy throughout the day, much stronger, happier, healthier (lost the stomach cramps), sleeping better etc, etc positives in every way - just the usual story with those who eat paleo/primal.

    Personally I would recommend Cordain's book The Paleo Diet, available on the kindle.

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    OK, I'm in!! The testimonials I've been reading really did it for me. I think I've gathered enough evidence to warrant giving this Paleo thing an honest try. It almost seems too good to be true, but hey, I tried the vegan approach and ended up sick and in worse trouble with my health. This can't be so bad.

    I do need a day or two to organize my food stash and I'll have to sit down with hubby tonight for a 'come to Jesus talk'. He's an Italian and I'm pretty sure would rather drive nails up his nose then to forgo his pasta dishes, but in this case I have to do this for my health, so we may end up fixing separate meals. Nice thing is that we don't have kids around to prepare meals for, so we can do our own thing.

    Please don't lynch me, but one confession here... on the way home just a bit ago I stopped at Tim Horton's for my 'last act of defiance treat'... I ate a German chocolate cake sundae from their Cold Stone Creamery signature collection. Gawwwddd I'm going to miss that, but if the Paleo experience lives up to it's promise, I should be kicking the sugar cravings pretty soon. I'm just wondering how many days of hell I'll have to go through before the cravings are gone. (Gulp). Will have to see what legal Paleo treats I can scrounge up for later. Of course there is always a handful of sweet grapes or peaches I can indulge in.

    Is there another spot on this forum where I can connect with people who are active? I'd like to join a group of enthusiastic Paleoites to chew the fat with (figuratively and literally speaking ). I enjoy the interaction and camaraderie of good forum. This seems to be the place.

    Thanks all for your great input. I've officially crossed over to the dark side, so there had better be cookies!!!!

    Love, Jenny

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    Welcome!!

    Can't wait to hear how it goes.

    Totally separate meals are not strictly necessary, you can serve your meat sauce without pasta, for example. Planning ahead is very helpful (and fun).

    Carb cravings don't take long to go. Everything starts to taste sweet when you avoid sugar. Even carrots.

    Results from eliminating wheat are VERY quick to show. Bloating diminishes, body feels lighter...

    Have a great first primal day (and remember, take those measurements now, if you haven't already).

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    I just started (as in today) a 30 day Paleo challenge with my Crossfit box. I could use the extra support too.

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    Will do! I'm actually kind of excited now! I'm aiming to start on Saturday, Sunday at latest! Tricialisha, you can buddy up with me if you want. Send me a PM and we'll connect!

    Quote Originally Posted by Annieh View Post
    Welcome!!

    Can't wait to hear how it goes.

    Totally separate meals are not strictly necessary, you can serve your meat sauce without pasta, for example. Planning ahead is very helpful (and fun).

    Carb cravings don't take long to go. Everything starts to taste sweet when you avoid sugar. Even carrots.

    Results from eliminating wheat are VERY quick to show. Bloating diminishes, body feels lighter...

    Have a great first primal day (and remember, take those measurements now, if you haven't already).

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    Jenny, welcome aboard. My wife and I are almost 2 years Primal, and we've lost weight and are feeling better. We get comments all the time about how great we look - friends, relatives, even the waitresses at our local pub.

    You asked about macro ratios, and I think you'll find a lot of conflicting opinions there. For some, low carb is a great way to lose weight, and for others, low carb just doesn't work. We lost our initial 10% of body weight by going low carb or even very low carb through the week, and then letting ourselves have some carbs on the weekends - very much the 80%/20% idea. Since then, we've loosened up on carb restriction without gaining weight back, making sure that the carbs we were eating were the right ones (vegetable and fruit sources).

    The thing with eating high fat is that you again are eating the right kinds of fat: no industrial seed oils, no damaged/oxidized fats, no hydrogenated fats; mainly saturated fat from quality animal sources, monounsaturated from olive oil and avocado, etc.; PUFAs primarily from fish. To give an example from last year when I was eating VLC during the week, I might have a breakfast of smoked salmon (with cream cheese), some thinly sliced red onion, and halved cherry tomatoes, and a shake of dill. For lunch, I'd eat roasted vegetables with a hunk of goat cheese. Dinner would be grilled meat or fish and non-starchy vegetables.

    The thing that amazes me is that the years I toiled under the misconceptions of CW... just how much I was eating in refined carbs and grains. I might have some pizza on the weekend, but I would agree that you begin to sense a change in taste and a change in attitude about foods with sugar and grains. Mrs. FW gets her sweet tooth on the weekend, but the idea of eating bread every day or pasta a few times a week would send us both running. She's said she feels like making some cookies this weekend. OK, make some cookies. But when the cookies are gone (probably half will be sent over to the neighbors so they're not around during the week), we will both agree that it was fun but that we crave good food again.

    Just don't overdo the splurges, and get creative with meat, fish, and veggies. Plenty of recipe threads here.

    And yes, we started jogging even pre-Primal, and although we're not as active as some on the MDA boards, it does contribute to our overall well-being. We love to go for 5Ks in a couple of places close by that are a relaxing stroll through nature, woods and lakes.

    I've also met several other PA folks and depending on where you are, there are some GREAT food resources close by. Plenty of farmer's markets where you can get local, seasonal, organic fruits and veggies, as well as meats. Lots of CSAs if you want a weekly delivery of local, sustainable crops. But there are also lots of farms you can buy direct from, which is what I do to get my beef, eggs, lamb, pork, and chicken. Check out eatwild.com and localharvest.org for what's close to you. Also, there's a place in PA called Wild for Salmon, this couple goes to Alaska a few times a year and brings back a whole bunch of flash-frozen wild salmon and other whitefish. Let me know if you need any help tracking down food sources!

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