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    Are veggies really primal?

    I have been getting more primal over the years, this website has really been helpful. But primal for me means all the foods I love but thought were bad for me!!!

    One thing bothers me though. I don't think my primal ancestors ate many bell peppers, iceberg lettuce, cucumbers, broccoli or anything resembling modern vegetables. And certainly without the insecticides, herbicides and chemical fertilizers.

    I also suspect that they ate more tubers than veggies, and stuffed themselves with fruit, in season.

    I notice that I do not tolerate lots of veggies. I don't really like them, I eat them because everyone says I should. But dogs, cats, and other carnivores don't eat them and get along just fine.

    So really, do I have to eat my veggies mom?

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    To my understanding, vegetables aren't exactly necessaries, provided you are using other paleo-friendly foods to get your vitamins and minerals etc.

    It all depends on your current state and goals, but Id be wary about "stuffing" yourself with fruit. Your argument about modern vegetables not resembling those found in pre agriculture days holds true to fruits as well. While fruits have lots of nutrients, they are also high in sugar, and quite often referred to as natures candy.

    If you don't agree with vegetables, then make sure you are getting a good amount of offal from decent sources. Beef heart is amazingly good, and cheap, liver is fantastic for vitamins, throw in some good quality fish and eggs and you are off to a good start.

    Finally, check out a lot of previous posts on this website regarding a low FODMAP diet. I love any type of vegetable, especially broccoli and brussels sprouts, but unfortunately if I eat too much of them in one sitting I get uncomfortable bloating. maybe you just need to mix up the vegetables you have been eating.

    plus, you are in Thailand, Im sure you have endless access to amazing coconut products. Amazing stuff

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    That is a good tip, animals of course eat all of the animal they kill. I should eat more "innards". Another thing about Thailand is the easy availability of all parts of animals, most of the local soups are made from "innards"
    Yep, coconut is everywhere and I love it. Also an amazing variety of fruit I had never seen or heard of before. The other day I made the mistake of eating 2 apples for dinner and got a horrible sugar buzz.

    But if listening to my body is accurate, I am eating lots of meat, a little dairy, some fruit, seeds, nuts and tubers. I went off potatoes but have added them back in.

    I found this link: interesting...

    Raw Yam?
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    My chiropractor who first introduced me to a primal-like diet states that 60%-70% of your diet should be leafy greens, like kale, spinach and other field greens.
    Would leafy greens most likely resemble the veggies that were available for consumption, vs things like peppers and broccoli?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochxyde View Post
    My chiropractor who first introduced me to a primal-like diet states that 60%-70% of your diet should be leafy greens, like kale, spinach and other field greens.
    Would leafy greens most likely resemble the veggies that were available for consumption, vs things like peppers and broccoli?
    I'm sure he meant by volume, and even at that I don't think that approach is beneficial or detrimental to health.

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    Some people feel great eating lots of veggies and others don't. I think it's a personal choice.

    Personally, I used to be really into eating a lot of veggies, until I realized they were a trigger for my IBS flares. The insoluable fiber in most veggies is extremely difficult for the digestive system to deal with. In fact, humans don't produce cellulase, the enzyme requires to digest cellulose (insoluable fiber), so we have to rely on our guts fermenting this stuff, which can produce excessive gas, bloating, inflammation, and long term dysfunction.

    I feel significantly better since ditching most of the veggies I used to eat (especially the green leafy stuff). I eat mainly low fiber veggies now, and in lesser quantities. However, I feel totally fine eating a lot of fruit and starchy tubers which I seem to thrive on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neckhammer View Post
    I'm sure he meant by volume, and even at that I don't think that approach is beneficial or detrimental to health.
    It is intended as volume. I am also a she

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochxyde View Post
    It is intended as volume. I am also a she
    Ahhh, yeah....There was another poster that questioned getting this much leafy greens by calories.....so I was trying to help them out . I've taken some of the Dr. Chestnut seminars. Quite paleo approach.

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    Whike we're discussing authenticity, is a modern protein-based diet really Paleo? No, unless you are eating wild game and not chicken, salmon, beef, and pork, however grass-fed, free-range and organic. Your primal andestors probably never tasted a chicken their whole lives. Just try to live a healthy lifestyle roughly based on foundations of an ancient healthy lifestyle and try not to overanalyze things. Sure, it's possible to live without vegetables, but I find my diet is much richer with them included.
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    Whoa. I do not even want to THINK about a diet where 60% of your calories comes from leafy greens. You'd be chewing all day! That works out to about 6 large bunches of greens to every generous portion of meat. Are you sure you understood that correctly?

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