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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielfire View Post
    Is it just when it detects starch? I have always wondered what happens when you start salivating at the thought of food, but the you don't follow through with the food. That would be cool if you could fool your body glucose response.
    Pretty sure there has to be starch. Some used to say artificial sweeteners caused an insulin spike, too, but I think that has been disproven.

    I was thinking that chewing and spitting-out a mouthhful of rice or potatoes may have some useful effect...a slight surge of insulin and cellular glucose deposition. But haven't really figured out if that would be useful or just stupid.

    There may be a Pavlovian insulin response, though, will have to read up on it. Did you know the pancreas secretes insulin on a rythmic 3-5 minute cycle 24/7 just to keep glucose stable.
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    Just wanted to say I reverted to Primal over the weekend and no gain of any of the weight I lost. Pretty damn happy with my tater experiment! Thanks Otzi

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambchop View Post
    Just wanted to say I reverted to Primal over the weekend and no gain of any of the weight I lost. Pretty damn happy with my tater experiment! Thanks Otzi
    Win!

    Meat tastes good after that long, hey..

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    Oops...

    didn't hit the reply with quote:

    "Hey man, didn't realise you were a member here, great to see you are. Your research is interesting. I found it a fascinating experiment.

    And glad you dropped in here to clear things up. Got annoying when people were jumping in to attack Otzi, apparently for the hell of it."


    I am, but I don't really get over here often. I just didn't want Otzi taking heat over posting. It's been interesting to watch all the spin and you know what I think about "protein carb and fat" speak. There are some real lessons here besides a hack. Contrary to popular opinion, I didn't do this because if chris voight, but certainly looked into what he's done. I do know John McDougall and he's really had some fantastic results with people (not all that follow him), but I too don't want to spend time in the ideology of vegan (or paleo for that matter).

    There is way more to what is going on that just a "hack." I think a lot of people are mistaken with the current paradigm of food, but I am vetting my thoughts through the science community at the moment and collecting more data. I think both groups (vegan and paleo) are off the mark a bit for different reasons, but either way can be effective losing weight. That's A mission, not THE mission for me.

    I guess that makes me unpopular to both, or palatable to both - I guess it depends on what people think my motives are. I can say that I am trying to understand the obesity pandemic and put aside my own diagnosis bias, but with all the opinions out there, it's often ignored.

    I'm not around frequently, but if there's something important, feel free to let me know. I will **try** to check back every now and then.

    Thanks for staying open minded and PLEASE fill out data sheets when you test. I appreciate all I can get.

    Ray
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrZZeroG View Post
    There is way more to what is going on that just a "hack." I think a lot of people are mistaken with the current paradigm of food, but I am vetting my thoughts through the science community at the moment and collecting more data. I think both groups (vegan and paleo) are off the mark a bit for different reasons, but either way can be effective losing weight. That's A mission, not THE mission for me.
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    Hello, Ray (Ray Cronise, right? Of Thermogenex - Fuel the Burn)

    I had a read through your site and as far as I could tell, the "Potato Diet" was just a few comments on a gut health blog. Are you planning on writing more? I read somewhere you were working on peer-reviewed studies regarding...???

    I saw on your blog you have a "calorie tent" over your bed at home. How cool is that? Are you able to determine the thermogenic potential of foods eaten? Many here have described feeling warmer while eating nothing but potatoes, but the most thermogenic foods are supposed to be meat and fat.

    Also, are we on the right track regarding the insulin sensitivity/resistance improvements on a potato diet leading to rapid fat loss?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrZZeroG View Post
    Oops...

    didn't hit the reply with quote:

    "Hey man, didn't realise you were a member here, great to see you are. Your research is interesting. I found it a fascinating experiment.

    And glad you dropped in here to clear things up. Got annoying when people were jumping in to attack Otzi, apparently for the hell of it."


    I am, but I don't really get over here often. I just didn't want Otzi taking heat over posting. It's been interesting to watch all the spin and you know what I think about "protein carb and fat" speak. There are some real lessons here besides a hack. Contrary to popular opinion, I didn't do this because if chris voight, but certainly looked into what he's done. I do know John McDougall and he's really had some fantastic results with people (not all that follow him), but I too don't want to spend time in the ideology of vegan (or paleo for that matter).

    There is way more to what is going on that just a "hack." I think a lot of people are mistaken with the current paradigm of food, but I am vetting my thoughts through the science community at the moment and collecting more data. I think both groups (vegan and paleo) are off the mark a bit for different reasons, but either way can be effective losing weight. That's A mission, not THE mission for me.

    I guess that makes me unpopular to both, or palatable to both - I guess it depends on what people think my motives are. I can say that I am trying to understand the obesity pandemic and put aside my own diagnosis bias, but with all the opinions out there, it's often ignored.

    I'm not around frequently, but if there's something important, feel free to let me know. I will **try** to check back every now and then.

    Thanks for staying open minded and PLEASE fill out data sheets when you test. I appreciate all I can get.

    Ray
    Hey Ray, just wanted to say thanks. Will fill out a data sheet!

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    This is interesting...I have to assume that those who get positive results with this plan have no AI issues....for me two servings of potatos will start the joint pains, etc.

    ETA: WTF is up with the MOAR thing.......it`s kinda stupid. Spell properly, it helps project the image thst you have a functioning cerebral cortex.
    Last edited by endless; 11-21-2012 at 02:15 AM.

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    You're a real charmer, endless. Welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoanieL View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoanieL View Post
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    well, see her lovely input into the manly man gripe thread. FFS, just roll your eyes and move on

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