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    Anything having to do with non-participation and declining health can be defined at non-primal. Porn can be innocent or really insane, but I think it's basically better to have real social connections instead. Get away from the computer in general! That's primal. And then again, computers are awesome that provide all kinds of things for people. It's basically the glue for humankind's future. So these topics are not so simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpamix View Post
    Yeah, there is definitely a disturbing trend regarding porn fetishes around now. Most which seem to adhere to the feminization and domestication of men. Like femdom, cuckolding, chastity belts, and various other sick shit. Oh, and lets not forget the glorification of "the big black cock"
    I agree, but I don't think porn is the panacea for it all.

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    You could argue that it's our Victorian views of sex that cause porn to become popular. I think you have to free sex, and people then get fixed, and porn isn't necessary. Kids shouldn't be property without the rights to live where they want. Then, maybe you can free up the current nuclear family, and living in our society transitions from separate to more together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiltondeportes View Post
    You could argue that it's our Victorian views of sex that cause porn to become popular. I think you have to free sex, and people then get fixed, and porn isn't necessary.
    You said "our". Speak for yourself. I don't know anybody with a "Victorian view of sex." If you do, that's fine, but you're unique.

    The fact that we're talking about an epidemic of people being addicted to porn kinda debunks those tired old "puritanical attitudes toward sex" cliches. The ABC Family Channel has kids TV shows with teenage boys dressed as women, and the movie with a teenage lesbian sex scene, 'Cruel Intentions', used to play on the channel regularly (back when I had cable, about five or so years ago). Where is this supposed "Victorian" civilization full of ladies, gentleman, chivalry, and honor? It ain't America.

    Therefore, your (apparent) argument that a "Victorian" system must be destroyed before sex addiction can be overcome is bogus, as the Victorian system have long been destroyed. So that's not the problem. (And, oh yeah, I've heard that Japan has the single biggest problem with porn addiction in recent years, as fully one-third of young men openly admit to having no sex drive for real women. So there goes that one, yet again.)

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    But since you maintain that women don't really want sex... what's the problem with men wanting sex from real women less.
    Seem like that would work out just about right!

    Or do you think that men should want sex from women who don't want sex and thus deny then making the man live in a constant state of dissatisfaction...

    Or should the woman give in to sex she does not want nor enjoy simply to allow the man to please himself?

    Inquiring minds...
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    This is a little bit off-topic, but just in reply to the silly comment that (gluttonous, porn-addicted, women boasting of supposed nymphomania) America is "Victorian".

    Well, that's silly on its face, of course. But what did happen to any trace of that traditional, patriarchal, hierarchical, peaceful America? Why is it only mocked and brought up as a boogeyman to frighten womynists and other morons?

    This short documentary has a lot of answers:



    There is one culture in there about the rise of "critical theory" consuming education. And the quote goes
    "The term 'critical theory' is something of a play on words. One is tempted to ask, 'What is the theory?' The answer is, the theory is to criticize. Through unremitting destructive criticism of every institution of Western society, they hoped to bring Western society down. Critical theory is the basis of gay studies, black studies, women's studies, and various other studies departments found on American university campuses today."
    That pretty much sums up this Bizarro culture right now. (Well, that and demographics.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBrennan View Post
    You said "our". Speak for yourself. I don't know anybody with a "Victorian view of sex." If you do, that's fine, but you're unique.

    The fact that we're talking about an epidemic of people being addicted to porn kinda debunks those tired old "puritanical attitudes toward sex" cliches. The ABC Family Channel has kids TV shows with teenage boys dressed as women, and the movie with a teenage lesbian sex scene, 'Cruel Intentions', used to play on the channel regularly (back when I had cable, about five or so years ago). Where is this supposed "Victorian" civilization full of ladies, gentleman, chivalry, and honor? It ain't America.

    Therefore, your (apparent) argument that a "Victorian" system must be destroyed before sex addiction can be overcome is bogus, as the Victorian system have long been destroyed. So that's not the problem. (And, oh yeah, I've heard that Japan has the single biggest problem with porn addiction in recent years, as fully one-third of young men openly admit to having no sex drive for real women. So there goes that one, yet again.)
    The Victorian idea was total modesty in public. That makes anything like sex very taboo for anything except behind closed doors. Naturally, almost everyone is curious about taboo subjects. This is what Hollywood and porn is playing on: our deepest, darkest desires. If you remove the taboo aspect, people can think and act more maturely about it.

    Same concept applies to drugs I believe. Young people are into drugs and alcohol just because it's taboo. Anything taboo is naturally "cool" in the rebelious, adventurous mind of a teenager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBrennan View Post
    This is a little bit off-topic, but just in reply to the silly comment that (gluttonous, porn-addicted, women boasting of supposed nymphomania) America is "Victorian".

    Well, that's silly on its face, of course. But what did happen to any trace of that traditional, patriarchal, hierarchical, peaceful America? Why is it only mocked and brought up as a boogeyman to frighten womynists and other morons?

    This short documentary has a lot of answers:



    There is one culture in there about the rise of "critical theory" consuming education. And the quote goes something like, "And what did critical theory set out to criticize? Everything." That pretty much sums up this Bizarro culture right now. (Well, that and demographics.)
    Go ahead. Blame the world's problems on everyone except for you and poor men like you.

    Isn't political correctness just Victorian ideology taken to the Nth degree though? I think rather than a "new" movement of political correctness arising, a meme long-existing in our culture was simply mutated to gain more prominence than before. Just because the "good ole boys" weren't politically correct back in the early 1900's and 1800's, that doesn't mean they were right about everything in their way of life. I think Greeks were more impressive than American culture. Even still, I don't put them on the pedestal for a return to the "old days". With a changing lifestyle due to technology, we will have to continue to evolve and search for a better way of living.
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    Rather than teaching a politically correct Victorian modest image, we should be teaching moderation. All things in moderation. The Greeks believed this separated them from the Persians and other eastern cultures. If sex is freed from it's Victorian meaning, and people understand you can have too much of a good thing, you don't have porn addicts (or at least not nearly the quantity that you do today). I think you also don't have as many addicts in general, including drugs, alcohol, video games, and whatever else people do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cori93437 View Post
    But since you maintain that women don't really want sex... what's the problem with men wanting sex from real women less.
    Seem like that would work out just about right!

    Or do you think that men should want sex from women who don't want sex and thus deny then making the man live in a constant state of dissatisfaction...

    Or should the woman give in to sex she does not want nor enjoy simply to allow the man to please himself?

    Inquiring minds...
    Who the hell said women don't like sex? In my experience, they love sex almost more than anything else. It's both pleasure and a means for the woman to gain power. Plus, they could theoretically have almost infinite stamina in bed, unlike guys who are limited by their physiology.
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