Ronald Krauss on Red Meat & Dairy Sat'd Fat page

[Artbuc]

Just came across this over on meandmydiabetes.com

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Nothing proved, of course, but potential interesting link between red meat, dairy saturated fat and CVD.

[Alex Good]

I'd like to see if actual fatty beef as opposed to beef and cheese would have the same effect. Also, if dairy + meat = bad then the jews actually got their diet right.

[Alex Good]

Oh and this could also be the quality of the diet playing a hand as well. There's a huge difference between Balderson's 5 year old cheddar and the grocery store stuff.

[doublehelix]

Oh and this could also be the quality of the diet playing a hand as well. There's a huge difference between Balderson's 5 year old cheddar and the grocery store stuff.

Interesting point. I was buying the Tillamook cheese, no BGH in it...I avoid anything Kraft or processed.

I haven't found much free-range or hormone-free red meat. I have something against eating a pig that was confined its whole life in a stall. I have found hormone-free ground beef, but I am not a big fan of "ground" anything. Free-range, organic chicken is easier to find. I have found Bison too, but only "ground".

I only buy cage-free, no hormone eggs. Eggs are a great source of protein. A lot of "nutrition experts" shudder at eggs and push toast or refined box cereals like Special K!!

I think meat is good for us, but I think unless one buys range or growth hormone free meat and dairy, one is getting a lot of chemicals and additives that are horrid.

[peril]

The takeaway may simply be to not eat beef three meals a day

[Forgotmylastusername]

Thanks, interesting. I'm starting to believe every nutrition question in regards to illness and health can be answered with an "it depends".

[Alex Good]

The takeaway may simply be to not eat beef three meals a day

Yeah, just IF it and eat a whole roast.

[Lewis]

The takeaway may simply be to not eat beef three meals a day

I'd say that's a sensible response.

Gregory: "Is there any other point to which you would wish to draw my attention?"
Holmes: "To the curious incident of the dog in the night-time."
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The interesting question might be what is likely not to be in that diet -- or not present at a high enough level?

[AlanC]

In the interview they talk about studies and such but I have to wonder, with all the money thrown at such things, why is there not a much larger set of studies?

Why is it, even today after all the previous studies and "We can't be sure, more research is needed" results, that we don't just have a massive program of such studies to define the answer one way or another?

Right now it's just a hodge-podge of industry-funded research with more holes than a fishing net, research that raises more questions than it answers.

I'm sick of hearing how eggs will kill ya dead, then they're healthy, then they're only healthy if they're free-range, then it doesn't matter as long as they have extra omega 3, then how the O3 from such eggs can't be used, then a study saying it can, then another study saying it can't, then a study saying it can but only if free-range, then a study saying extra O3 doesn't work with free-range but does work with factory chickens, then another study saying eggs will kill ya dead anyway, then a study saying eggs are THE secret to a long life and sex into your 90's - but only organic ones with added sea algae from a little island off the coast of Italy, and only if you leave them under your sink next to a wet flannel for 2 weeks (you have to add some apple cider vinegar to the flannel or it could kill ya dead!) etc etc etc.

Just sick of it all.

So what do I do? I come to a site that says 'Just eat meat and veggies, some fruits, nuts, berries, natural foods."

Cool.

Then what do I see?

An article on how eating meat..? Oh that's OK but eat it with saturated fat? It'll kill ya dead!

Oh *&% off!




AC

[Artbuc]

In the interview they talk about studies and such but I have to wonder, with all the money thrown at such things, why is there not a much larger set of studies?

Why is it, even today after all the previous studies and "We can't be sure, more research is needed" results, that we don't just have a massive program of such studies to define the answer one way or another?

Right now it's just a hodge-podge of industry-funded research with more holes than a fishing net, research that raises more questions than it answers.

I'm sick of hearing how eggs will kill ya dead, then they're healthy, then they're only healthy if they're free-range, then it doesn't matter as long as they have extra omega 3, then how the O3 from such eggs can't be used, then a study saying it can, then another study saying it can't, then a study saying it can but only if free-range, then a study saying extra O3 doesn't work with free-range but does work with factory chickens, then another study saying eggs will kill ya dead anyway, then a study saying eggs are THE secret to a long life and sex into your 90's - but only organic ones with added sea algae from a little island off the coast of Italy, and only if you leave them under your sink next to a wet flannel for 2 weeks (you have to add some apple cider vinegar to the flannel or it could kill ya dead!) etc etc etc.

Just sick of it all.

So what do I do? I come to a site that says 'Just eat meat and veggies, some fruits, nuts, berries, natural foods."

Cool.

Then what do I see?

An article on how eating meat..? Oh that's OK but eat it with saturated fat? It'll kill ya dead!

Oh *&% off!




AC

You captured my reaction exactly.