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Ahhh... Betorq.Originally Posted by Betorq
All that talk of cocoa/delicious raw cocoa and Panama.
Shame on YOU> did you know that it's basically my dream to expat to Panama?
(I have strange dreams.)
You have pushed me a little further towards my edge...
Also.
In spite of all the stuff bandied about that says that it's only oxalic acid that is a problem for some people that is not corrrect. There are people with conditions... kidney/UTI problems and other conditions such as vulvodynia and fibromyalgia... who are also affected by the oxalate content left after food is cooked. Their bodies are not lying to them. They eat foods high in oxalates but that are supposed to have zero oxalic acid left... and the pain returns. They remove the foods high in base oxalate... and maintain control that way.
That is why I don't currently consume any chocolate.
One day I'll have it back though... one day!
(**On a side note it seems that there is some recent food evidence that use of antibiotics has played a part in causing modern sensitivities to oxalates that probably did not exist previously. While antibiotics often save lives I think that the impact they are having on overall health is just starting to be understood. It has been found that many people with health problems lack the gut flora necessary to digest foods properly... and this goes for oxalates as well.
And while Lactobacillus acidophilus and bifidus and Saccharomyces boulardii are helpful in digesting oxalates it is not their preferred food source and they are not efficient. It is however the preferred food source of the anaerobe called Oxalobacter formigenes, and several studies have shown that people who develop oxalate related health issues lack Oxalobacter formigenes in their gut/stool. Unfortunately, unlike the other probiotocs, it is not available as a culture for supplement (yet?).
Personally, since I stopped consuming high oxalate (not just oxalic acid) foods, I have had a dramatic reduction in symptoms from my medical issues, and have also decreased my medication by half... and continue to try to decrease it further.
This is quite unexpected as I was going LowOx mainly as a kidney protection. I made the connection to the gut issues later during the research when I learned of the gut health complications implicated and how my medical condition developed. MANY people with the medical issue that I have have it precipitate following the use of a specific type of antibiotics. It's fairly well documented that there is a connection. )
