LOL G. i am not gonna even go there!!! i think doc we were discussing my masochistic tendencies just a page or so ago LOL i always joke with my trainer about sending him to sadists anonymous. thankfully he trains as hard as the rest of us so he never really makes me do anything he cant or wont do. i walk on country roads too. pot holes. dirt or do you call it shingle? or gravel? bad driving and i dont mean me! livestock on the loose. random water birds. soon we will have crazies with shotguns shooting them too as duck season is almost upon us. the odd marine mammal hanging out. i stopped and had a chat to a seal with other day when i hit a corner with cell phone coverage. hills and swerving corners. plus nasty cross winds and howling gales.