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    Thank you ssn679doc and Ayla2010! Best of luck to both of you on your primal journey as well! I will try to check out your threads in the coming days.
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    Hi. Stopping by as I saw you in the Primal 2013 group. Congrats to a great new start! Keep up the good work!
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    Thanks bamabelle! Hope you will stop by again as you peruse the threads!
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    Day Thirteen

    Some realizations I have come to discover about myself since starting down the path of Grok…

    1. I’m lazy. I really am. I don’t mean I’m lazy like the kid who is slowly becoming part of the couch he is sprawled across with a bag of Doritos propped on his chest so he can inhale them while playing the latest video game until his brain turns to mush. I mean I have no time or desire to count calories, or points or anything else for that matter! It doesn’t do it for me. I tried paleotrack.com, At first it was the greatest new toy in my toolbox. Sure I would spend much time weighing and measuring and listing and then studying the graphs and the lists and all the rest but to what end? Some of the items I found most important (vitamins and omega 3 supplements) were not listed and I have no clue how to list the nutrients in them. Some of the items I wanted to list where there but not in the format I was eating them – for example why is broccoli listed raw but not roasted, steamed, or cooked in any other way, but broccoli raab is… what the hell is broccoli raab anyway?!? This tool is a great idea, if you are a calorie counter, a person who obsesses over the numbers but part of my journey to Grokdom is to get away from overcomplicating things. So I can admit I am lazy – too damn lazy to count the numbers.

    2. I have common sense: According to Merriam-Webster common sense is defined as, "sound and prudent judgment based on a simple perception of the situation or facts." Often times I stand in crowded public places and marvel at the number of people who lack this ability. The number of people who I am sure in Grok’s day would have been picked off by any number of predators! Now, I am not saying I would survive the predators either, lets face it at nearly 300 lbs I’m not the fittest nor the fastest Grok on the planet but I like to think if I saw the lion coming I’d be one of the ones doing what I could to get out of there, even if it meant trampling the skinny faster ones in front of me. But in all seriousness by common sense I mean I’m able to look at my meals and figure out if the portions are roughly where they should be. I know the more sugar (fruits and the like) the more carbs and vs. versa. I know juice = bad but its better than pop (soda) and nothing beats a nice clear glass of H2O. I know dairy is good for me, in small quantities, but it is not good for everyone. I know the root of my diet is good old fashion meat and veggies and that variety is where it is at – chicken, pork, lamb, venison, beef and all forms of seafood, mixed with an endless variety of greens and fresh raw veggies - that is where I am at!

    3. I love good food that tastes good: Let me clear this off my plate right now, I still love pizza and a good burger and I don’t think that will ever change. I now understand why I love these foods so much and also why eating that crap is not going to cut it anymore. I have discovered I love flavorful, healthy and simple foods. I love the taste of a well prepared and seasoned medium rare steak – especially if it is wild game! Last year if you were to ask me my favorite food I would have said something crazy like a burger, today Medium rare deer steak cooked on the BBQ with Bacon Wrapped Bay Scallops (fresh is best) and either steamed asparagus or roasted broccoli. There is just no comparing the good nutrient dense REAL food with the processed crap they sell in the center isles of the grocery store. I have noticed as my diet changes I hardly spend any time in the center isles and instead ring the store to hit the veggies, meat and dairy sections. In and out pretty quickly these days.

    4. I am vain: I mean really vain, more vain that I thought I could be. As I start to feel better I really want to look better. Suddenly my clothes are more important, my hair is more important, if I have a 5 o’clock shadow it has to look good damn it or its time to shave! My better half has noticed this too, perhaps because I am starting to encroach on her time in front of the mirror??? As I lose the weight I want to lose more, I want to look good naked. I want to be able to strut around the beach and be a spectacle and not because I’m being trailed by a bunch of animal lovers trying to throw my fat butt back into the sea despite my protests that I’m not a whale. I find I am looking forward to the moment I feel comfortable enough to take my shirt off in public and enjoy the summer sun. When that day comes I want to drop what I am doing, book a holiday to some tropical summer place and live the week in nothing but shorts; feasting on meat and veggies, hiking and swimming and relaxing. Living the “good life.”

    5. I’m more positive: I never really realized how negative I had become, about my own body and my world in general, until I started to feel better. The more weight I lose the better I feel and the better my outlook becomes. I get up with more energy and look forward to the day. I try to challenge myself and I seek out new things rather than avoiding them. I have started to enjoy things I have not done for ages. Next up is a return to Squash - I have not played in seven years but a colleague at work has agreed to play once every two weeks so hopefully I can keep up!

    This journey is only 13 days old but it has been a great and satisfying 13 days so far. Next weigh in day is Wednesday and although I do not expect to put up another huge loss I am hopeful there is some reduction in the total weight number.
    Cheers!
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    Day Fourteen,

    This is the two week mark and I am needing to tweak my diet for the foreseeable future. I was diagnosed yesterday with a gallstone, which my doctor accidentally found while running other tests. Although it has not given me any issues to date it is pretty large and as my doctor explained to me it is a time bomb waiting to go off. He proceeded to explain to me that it could cause many different issues or it could never cause any trouble but do to its size he wants me to consult with a surgeon to discuss possible options to remove it.

    In the mean time I was given considerable literature to read up on and a long long list of "don'ts" and a much shorter list of "do's" to follow until this consult to help ensure my risk for any issues is minimum. Top of the list is reduce fat intake which is a large part of the primal blueprint, seconded by drink more water. At first I was ready to walk away from PB and call it quits, re-up on the CW diet and chalk this up to a failed experiment. After careful consideration I believe I can still maintain a PB lifestyle and diet but reduce the fat intake as much as possible.

    I talked with my brother who is both a health care professional and on the PB plan and he agreed that I should be able to focus on eating leaner cuts of meat (more seafood and chicken and less red meat) and should be able to up my veggie intake and still be both primal and healthy when it comes to this stone.

    I'm not sure what my meals will look like now but they will be changing. I'm going to try to eat red meat only once a week - wild game (deer and moose) stay away from the ground beef, bacon and eggs as I read they are the number one culprit for bringing on gallbladder issues - I'm not sure this is true but why take the chance, right? I am also staying away from anything fried - there go the plantains!!! In addition I will be reducing the amount of butter and coconut oil I am using for the time being. My only worry is that I will find a drop in energy levels as a result of cutting the fats to lower levels.

    The one upside to all this is I now have an excuse (as if I needed one) to grill my meats - even in the dead of winter. Here I come BBQ! I'm hoping that once I meet with the surgeon and there is a plan in place to deal with this I will be able to eventually loosen these restrictions and focus on returning to a full primal diet. In the meantime it looks like there are a number of tasty salads in my future!

    I think this just proves to me that my previous lifestyle had me heading down the wrong path entirely. Given the size of the stone it must have taken some time to develop and I have to conclude that it developed in part due to my previous diet. Given the fact that I am only in my early 30's I should not be in the shape I am in - I need to lose this f'ing weight and this is just one more motivation to get it off for good.

    This is day fourteen... weigh in day tomorrow...
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    Hey PP, just want to share my experience with gallstones with you. I am not suggesting you do what I did, as it may not work for you, but could be something worth looking into

    I had pain for ages, in my kidney area, and never did anything until it got really bad. My Dr sent me for an ultrasound, and kidneys were fine, but turns out I had 2 quite big gall stones. Apparently for some pain can be in not the usual area (under ribs at the front, right side). She wanted me to go see a surgeon straight away.
    I looked into alternate methods, and read about the olive oil/lemon juice flush. I tried it and it made me sick from both ends for 2 days, but have not had the pain since, and this was 6 weeks ago now. I did not bother to look through the loo for the stones, but I truly believe they are gone.
    Another plan for you could be going to a naturopath. I read that about the fats and gall bladders, but if its not causing you pain, I don't believe you need to cut down on your fats just yet. It usually causes people with gall bladder issues more pain, since its working harder to remove the bile. Removing your gall bladder can cause you worse problems later.

    Good luck with tomorrows weigh in, and good luck with whatever you decide about your stones

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    Thanks Alya2010!
    I'm still weighing my options and trying to wrap my head around the choices so any and all advice is welcome. I meet with my specialist in February, I want to see what he recommends and then go from there. It would seem every option has it pros and cons. As the gallstone is not bothering me and has never bothered me in the past I am content for now to let it be but I do worry it will one day flair up into something horrible. I'm not a huge fan of hospitals and doctors (irrational fears are fun, right) so if I can get this dealt with in a controlled manner before it becomes major I'm happy to do so.
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    I get that. Hospitals are needed at times, but only as a last resort for me. Having my first child there, ruined it for me. Hence why I stayed home for my second
    Honestly its not bothering you now, id do nothing more than anything. But also I decided the lemon/oil flush was worth doing, it wouldn't hurt if it did nothing, and I knew if it got stuck or whatever and caused me pain, I would then have gone to the hospital.
    If you do a google you will find heaps of info. I can't find the exact website for the one I used, but will keep looking.
    But it was 1/4 c olive oil mixed with 2 tbs of lemon juice, shaken and chugged back, every 15 mins, and it took around 2 hours or so to get the full amount down (300 ml OO). I juiced some apples, and the lemon juice together to make it easier to drink it down. It wasn't pretty but I truly believe it worked.

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    Day Fifteen: "Stress is a Bitch!"

    Last night I crashed...hard! I woke yesterday feeling beat, like I went ten rounds with a deranged kangaroo who bounced on his tail and hit with all four appendages. Doesn't seem very fair, I know. I rallied enough to get my butt to work but I was dragging the whole day and just didn't quite feel right. I thought maybe I was coming down with something - working in a school there is always a bug going round just waiting to pounce, but I had none of the usual symptoms - stuffy nose, sore throat, used kleenex in every pocket - don't "ewww" me, I you know do it too.

    I coasted to lunch not really hungry but eating anyway just in case it was a drop in energy I was feeling owing to the reduction of fats in my diet. Lunch over, feeling totally satiated I still could not seem to get out of the funk I was in. The end of the day just could not come soon enough. I found myself clock watching for the first time in ages and when that bell went it was like a high pitched banshee wail of an angel song - the most horrendously beautiful sound I had ever heard!

    With the kids gone I was able to collapse into my chair - and I mean collapse. I just kind of dropped into it - which, in hindsight, wasn't the best plan as my chair has wheels on the bottom of it and I, in my ungraceful descent, managed to drop more onto the edge of the seat than the center. The result was said chair shooting at light speed out from under me and crashing against the wall in a thunderous clamor that must have sounded similar to that of a crazed rhino bursting through the brush, or perhaps the preverbal bull in the china shop after someone slaps its rump, shows it red and yells yeehaw!

    Needless to say the sound echoed throughout the now empty hallways and brought my colleague running - not to see if I was alright mind you but to see what the sound was. And see they did - there was I sitting on my butt behind my desk legs straight out in front of me with a "what the hell just happened" look stamped across my face. Behind me the chair overturned against the wall one wheel spinning crazily with a monotonous zzzzzzzz sound in the otherwise silence of the moment. Laughter ensued as it should have. It was time to go home.

    With the chair incident behind me I made my way to the car looking more like a zombie than a human. I was wiped. At home my better half explained to me that which I could not in my exhausted brain workout for myself - I was coming down off a stress high. I am not scared of many things but my irrational fear is that of sickness, doctors, hospitals - I hate them all. Yes I know we need them and they should be heroes and blah blah blah, but in my mind Private Practice, Untold Stories of the ER and Grey's Anatomy - those are the real horror shows - Jason, Michael Myers and the rest of the slasher bunch ain't got nothing on them! So for the last week since my doctor's office called to tell me my test results were in I have been running in overdrive due to the stress of having to hear what could be wrong and then learning about the gallstone yesterday and receiving a call from the surgeons office I think put me over the top. The result was a total shut down of systems yesterday a crash and reboot if you will.

    It's interesting how one can read the books, know what to look for and take steps to try and overcome our modern day stress, our fears and in some cases our idiosyncrasies and yet when the body decides to go into the instinctual survival mode there is little we can do to stop it. I figured I had the stress beat - meditation, deep breaths and counting to ten but still in the end I was stressed even when I thought I wasn't. Thankfully it has passed - I woke this morning after 12 hours of sleep feeling refreshed and ready to take on the day. The squash court is booked and I am looking forward to the first game in over seven years!

    I think I could grow to really like this active living stuff again! Makes me wonder why I let myself get away from it in the first place. Today was weigh in day I am down another 4.2 lbs, for a total of 15.1 lbs dropped in 15 days.

    Grok on!
    Last edited by Primal Primate; 01-16-2013 at 07:01 AM.
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