The Intermittent Fasting Dilemma 9/14/2012 by Ori Hofmekler Part 1 page 4

[gopintos]

It is much easier for me to either eat, or dont eat also. Once I start, I want to get satisfied. But even if that is one meal, it is not really one ginormous meal either. My 24 hour fast days just end up being low cal days. My regular days, are usually Fast-5's and those end up being normal calorie days spaced throughout my window.

I should add that by normal, I mean 1200 - 1500.

Just got this email from Eat Stop Eat dude, regarding the 24s:

OK, so remember the doctor who was quoting as saying that
fasting "resets" the metabolism, and how the journalist made that sound
like a really bad thing?

Well here is the full quote from the doctor...
"Fasting for 24 hours--foregoing not just food but drinks as
well--may allow the body to rest and reset metabolism, increasing
the body's sensitivity to glucose and insulin," says Horne,
director of cardiovascular and genetic epidemiology at
Intermountain Medical Center in Salt Lake City. "This hypothesis is
supported by animal research findings of an association between
fasting and increased longevity. Fasting may aid expression of
genes related to glycogen, a molecule that seems to increase
storage of glucose."

It would be hard for me to go w/o drinks, even just water. I noticed I do much better with a little salt in my water especially in the morning. Might just take some getting use to I guess. however, it does seem like when I fast, I have to remind myself to drink water.

[Paleobird]

Info like this?

Nady, from another person with slightly tweaked neurology, I adore you. Great article.

[Nady]

Nady, from another person with slightly tweaked neurology, I adore you. Great article.

Just don't knock your back out as you bow and scrape~

[Betorq]

It would be hard for me to go w/o drinks, even just water. I noticed I do much better with a little salt in my water especially in the morning. Might just take some getting use to I guess. however, it does seem like when I fast, I have to remind myself to drink water.

I think that quote refers to abstaining from foods and drink as in non-water drinks w/ calories and nutrition. I don't think it means to not drink water. That could mess you up in a hurry unless you are really pure and cleaned out already, a well-experienced faster. Speaking of going without water, in the '80s, I once went an entire week not drinking water or bathing as an experiment. It was a true water fast, a fast from water, but I was eating food ! Haha. Man did I get slick, grimy and stinky!

[gopintos]

I don't think it means to not drink water.

SWHEW!

oh, and the 80's. I remember those... sort of.

[sbhikes]

Regarding the brain thing, I was reading online how some researchers consider Alzheimer's to be type 3 diabetes. And then I found Emily Deans' post about ketogenic diets helping a small part of the brain of people with early Alzheimer's.
Evolutionary Psychiatry: Alzheimer's, Mild Cognitive Impairment, and Ketosis

In my mind there is some overlap with ketogenic diets and intermittent fasting, after all, what can be lower carb than eating nothing. Plus the whole fasting thing seems to work similar to calorie restriction which seems to also work similar to ketogenic diets.

[Sabre]

Cheers sbhikes, checking that out now too

[Neckhammer]

Did my 24 hours today . Well technically I'm at 23 right now, but I'll take my time getting dinner togeather. I was thinking about extending, but going to bed on an empty stomach SOOOOOO sucks. I may do it sometime, but not today.

[magicmerl]

I've been weekday IF'ing (only eating dinner) for a couple of months now, and my wife was concerned at the start that it wasn't good for me. Then she was concerned that it was being a bad roll model for my girls (since I still sit with the family for breakfast, and they see me eating nothing more than a brazil nut).

My compromise is to have a cup of miso soup for breakfast, on the grounds that it is unlikely to derail my fast but still looks like eating to them.

[gopintos]

I've been weekday IF'ing (only eating dinner) for a couple of months now, and my wife was concerned at the start that it wasn't good for me. Then she was concerned that it was being a bad roll model for my girls (since I still sit with the family for breakfast, and they see me eating nothing more than a brazil nut).

My compromise is to have a cup of miso soup for breakfast, on the grounds that it is unlikely to derail my fast but still looks like eating to them.

Yal I am glad my kids are grown. Of course we never all sat down to breakfast anyhow, so my eating dinner would fit right in. My youngest son is 18, and for years now, he eats once or twice a day anyways. If he eats twice, it is about every 12 hours. Before Primal, I might be up to fix his middle of the night feeding, but now he is on his own cuz I am in snoooooozeville. He pretty much eats primal but he does like buns and tortilla shells. He likes a deliver system loaded with meat, few veggies, eggs, & cheese.