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    Drink water with a squeeze of lemon juice in it... all day long.
    The citrate in the lemon will help dissolve the stone for Cal Ox types.
    This also helps to prevent Cal Ox stones.

    If I knew I had 4mm stone I'd be adding an EXTRA wedge to every glass and making it to the tart side for sure hoping it would dissolve it enough to break up, or smooth out, or something.

    I prefer the taste of lime... so I use key lime juice when I can.
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    On the topic of kidney stones, it reminded me of a visit to the dentist when I was fairly young. I had a stone (same material as a kidney stone) in my saliva duct. It must have been there for years, my neck glands would swell up when I was hungry and salivated! I was young enough to think that this was normal and happened to everyone :P

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    thanks jammies, your post is helping me feel mentally a lot better about this. It is frightening to see that for days on end!

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    Goosejuggler, ooooh! My dad had one of those and it looked very painful. I finally paid for him to see an ENT to get the darn thing removed, and he felt such relief! You poor thing!

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    OK, so the picture of the stone on the dime really made my day.

    If you are having chronic kidney stones, consider a low oxalate diet. Under normal circumstances, oxalates we ingest are handled by the gut flora and do little harm. If you have underlying problems like 'leaky gut' or chronic gut inflammation, oxalates can wreak havoc in the body (aggravating conditions like fibromyalgia, depression, autism). Knowing what kind of stones you are forming/passing is probably important if you are looking to change diet. I have a child on the Autism spectrum, so oxalates are a common topic.

    There is a connection between high protein diets and stones. What do we do with that information if we are both Primal and prone to stones?

    Ouch. I had crystals back in high school once. Probably due to chronic dehydration from my eating disorder. It was horrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZ primal Gwamma View Post
    I heard somewhere - not sure where, that too much protein can have a negetive effect on kidneys ??? Don't know how much is too much. Has anyone else heard this one ?
    Yes a high protein diet should be avoided it you have chronic kidney disease, but otherwise if your kidneys are relatively normal then a high protein diet shouldn't cause any issues.

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    Well, I ended up back in the ER last night. Blinding pain, so horrible. They gave me shots of morphine and sent me home with a scrip for painkillers. I apparently need to see a specialist, but none is available until Tuesday, so they said to just take painkillers until then. I am not in good spirits about this. Grrr.

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    Unless you're the Kool-Aid man, this is not normal.

    I wish you the best of luck in resolving the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palebluedots View Post
    Well, I ended up back in the ER last night. Blinding pain, so horrible. They gave me shots of morphine and sent me home with a scrip for painkillers. I apparently need to see a specialist, but none is available until Tuesday, so they said to just take painkillers until then. I am not in good spirits about this. Grrr.
    I asked The Boyfriend for some incredible insight, and he said to drink lots of something that will make you pee a bunch. He said beer, but he's not Primal, so maybe tea. Also, depending on where the stone is, walking around or even jumping up and down a bunch can help move it around enough to send it into your badder, which is the goal. Once it's in the bladder, it should stop hurting for good. It could pass in two hours or two weeks. You'll probably feel some pressure when you pee (like a kinked up hose - shouldn't have any pain), and that means it's coming out.

    Even though you are in pain, DO NOT lay around the house because the stone will stay in one spot and hurt like a mofo. You want it moving and heading toward the exit.
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    Not tea... tea will only add mass to the stone by bathing it in more of what it is made of.

    Coffee is fine to make you need to pee more often since it is also a mild diuretic.
    Then LOTS of water with lemon juice in it. LOTS... LOTS... LOTS... the more you pee the better.
    The lemon juice can help eat away at the stone to dissolve it and help it reduce in size or break apart.
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