IBD: Ulcerative Colitis page 4

[JamesS]

FYI,

I just popped in as a public service. Y'all are being aggravated by a professional TROLL that was thrown out of 2 discussion groups, and he destroyed the Iodine Group here at MDA. Put JamesS on "Ignore" or he will succeed in destroying this thread, too.

Oh Grizz, you give me way too much credit. I did not destroy the "iodine group" here. You had more to do with that than anyone. People were laughing at your claims about iodine and posting evidence against your claims long before I came here. I simply added more evidence against your claims from credible sources of information. So I showed:

-The so-called "bromine detox" is a joke.

-That iodine is very dangerous in excess doses.

-That your buddies on Curezone are well aware of this fact since they tell people to do "salt flushes" when people poison themselves with the doses they doses your buddies are recommending. And what do salt flushes do? That's right, they get rid of all the extra iodine causing the iodine poisoning.

-I showed that your buddies on Curezone are quacks since after having people do the salt flushes for their iodine poisoning they tell people to take even higher doses of iodine, but keep up those salt flushes since they will be poisoning themselves even more. Although your buddies will make even more money selling more iodine to these gullible people.

And so on and so forth.

By the way, notice how it was that I was banned from Curezone as I was posting overwhelming evidence of the dangers of excess iodine? Of course they are Curezone sponsors so they whined to the Webmaster to get me banned because the medical studies I was presenting on iodine poisoning was hurting their business. This just goes to prove that the Curezone Webmaster is not interested in health and safety, but rather the almighty dollar!

[solomani]

Hi all,

OP here. Thanks again for the feedback. I was interested in personal experience from people who had "conquered" UC in particular but any IBD generally. Which I think I got plenty of.

JamesS,
First, you seem to be a proponent for grain so maybe a paleo forum is not the best place to push that view. Having said that I did read your link on fibre and it was an interesting read, thanks. Do you have more information on the UC related points you raised in that post?

[namelesswonder]

Problem is that so much of his information is wrong:

Addressing "The Fiber Menace"

My issue with your review is that he does differentiate between soluble and insoluble fiber early on, but generally just refers to it as "fiber" in the book. My understanding is that the presence of the fiber in the supplements he produces is to help bind the agents in the gut, just as you said (soluble) fiber is needed for. I think the book does not do a great job clarifying the differences between soluble and insoluble fiber and keeping those differences clear throughout the entire text. Fiber IS essential, but not as much as conventional wisdom and the standard American diet would lead you to believe, and that is the major point that I got from the book.

[meeme]

I have been diagnosed as having Microscopic Colitis and had to live with it using diet and meds (Entocort) for a year during which I almost died..the drug left my body unable to fight pneumonia. In any case I had to get off the drug and every time I tried within 3 days I'd be running to the bathroom which meant no real life. I ate only chicken broth, nothing raw, no gluten and still couldn't trust my body. I discovered the relationship of Mast cells to my illness and began taking an antihistamine while avoiding high histamine foods. It allowed me to get off the meds. I added rice and chick peas, occasional lentils and managed but it wasn't until I came here and began eating full on Paleo that I've actually started to make progress. As my body makes the changes I find that the fat is tolerated well. I'm still cautious and prefer well cooked vegies and bone broth but I'm doing well and eating more than ever.

There is a group of people who are living with the serious problem of bowel disease and sharing with each other what works...they have been very helpful for me and that is where I first began to hear about Paleo. Anyone interested just pm me and I'll give the link.

Cutting out all grains is the beginning, if you're still having problems you have to figure out why...something you're eating is causing you problems.

[Neckhammer]

OP I would also recommend looking into GAPS as a treatment. Very beneficial when dealing with and healing a cranky gut. I cant speak as to UC personally, but my boy did get good results with GAPS Gut and Psychology Syndrome | GAPS Diet

Interesting point is that the GAPS diet is also fairly low in fiber in the initial stages also. I have not yet read the fiber menace, but they do seem to have that in common from what I understand.

[JamesS]

Hi all,

OP here. Thanks again for the feedback. I was interested in personal experience from people who had "conquered" UC in particular but any IBD generally. Which I think I got plenty of.

JamesS,
First, you seem to be a proponent for grain so maybe a paleo forum is not the best place to push that view. Having said that I did read your link on fibre and it was an interesting read, thanks. Do you have more information on the UC related points you raised in that post?

I am not really a proponent of grain, but neither am I against it. What I keep stating is that some people do fine with and some don't. Just like some people do fine with dairy and some don't. Some people do fine with meats and some don't. Some people do fine with fruits and some don't. Some people do fine with nightshades and some don't........ That is one of the reasons I do not advocate any type of strict diet. There is no single food or group of foods that is going to work for everyone.

As for the UC, which points exactly are you asking about? The mycoplasma involvement? Here is more information:

How Bacteria In Cows' Milk May Cause Crohn's Disease

Mycobacterium avium subsp.paratuberculosis in Crohn

Is Crohn's disease caused by a mycobacterium?

[JamesS]

My issue with your review is that he does differentiate between soluble and insoluble fiber early on, but generally just refers to it as "fiber" in the book. My understanding is that the presence of the fiber in the supplements he produces is to help bind the agents in the gut, just as you said (soluble) fiber is needed for. I think the book does not do a great job clarifying the differences between soluble and insoluble fiber and keeping those differences clear throughout the entire text. Fiber IS essential, but not as much as conventional wisdom and the standard American diet would lead you to believe, and that is the major point that I got from the book.

Does it matter if the fibers are soluble or insoluble when he uses both in his formulas? In other words how can he claim one is safe and one is dangerous then use both in his formulas?

[solomani]

I am not really a proponent of grain, but neither am I against it. What I keep stating is that some people do fine with and some don't. Just like some people do fine with dairy and some don't. Some people do fine with meats and some don't. Some people do fine with fruits and some don't. Some people do fine with nightshades and some don't........ That is one of the reasons I do not advocate any type of strict diet. There is no single food or group of foods that is going to work for everyone.

As for the UC, which points exactly are you asking about? The mycoplasma involvement? Here is more information:

How Bacteria In Cows' Milk May Cause Crohn's Disease

Mycobacterium avium subsp.paratuberculosis in Crohn

Is Crohn's disease caused by a mycobacterium?

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Good read but it looks like nothings happened on this since these papers were published. No antibiotic followup? I always suspected bacteria was involved somehow. But then I am not sure what the link is to wheat. When I don't eat wheat the condition improves, when I do I get a reaction within 20 hours. So it seems more complex then just bacteria or wheat.

Anyway will try the CSD first.

[JamesS]

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Good read but it looks like nothings happened on this since these papers were published. No antibiotic followup? I always suspected bacteria was involved somehow. But then I am not sure what the link is to wheat. When I don't eat wheat the condition improves, when I do I get a reaction within 20 hours. So it seems more complex then just bacteria or wheat.

Could be you also have a gluten intolerance or wheat allergies both of which can aggravate an autoimmune condition if you consume wheat.

[meeme]

JamesS -

I never give medical info - I merely share what i've done/experienced and suggest things for people to look into for themselves.

I'm sure you know a lot of good information, and have probably helped a lot of people. But the way you respond in this forum makes you look like a pompous know-it-all, and several of the things you've stated as fact are unproven theories.

And by the way, if what I'm writing is so ridiculous, then how did I single-handledly, without the help of any of the many specialists I've been to, manage to both heal my IBS AND simultaneously put my MS into remission without the use of a single MS drug?

Perhaps you just need to feel like you're the only one with the answers.

Low fiber was very important for me when I was in a flair. Fiber is the enemy when you have MC. The problem is that your so sick you can barely eat and the pain is terrible along with the big D. Not a small problem. Learning to figure out what's going on with your body takes time and all the while sometimes comes back up within a few minutes of eating...or you're running.

Eliminating all grains and eating low fiber is good advice in my view. Everyone is different so good luck. (I'm slow to join this thread...)

For those who may be dealing with what is commonly called (for lack of understanding or diagnosis)IBS there is a good forum of knowledgable people you may find helpful. http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/index.php