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    80/10/10 raw veganism is more paleo than nutritional ketosis.

    I'm sorry, I have to say it. This idea that blood sugar should never rise, ever, and carrying around a glucometer and ketone meter are the path to optimal health, and that ketogenic bliss somehow relates to "ancestral health" at large is a hefty, steamy pile of bullshit. I'm sure even the Massai and the Inuit would think this idea is bullshit. We need to abandon this Grass-Fed Atkins shit quick if we want any scientist worth their title to take this movement seriously. You can't model a diet based on evolutionary biology on the idea that glucose is poison.

    I'm serious, Gary Taubes, Jimmy Moore and Ron Rosedale are the worst things that ever happened to paleo.

    Or maybe I'm just cranky because the extra protein took me out of ketosis.

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    Bullshit. And even more bullshit.

    Have some bacon. Take a nap. You'll feel better tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaeVynn View Post
    Bullshit. And even more bullshit.

    Have some bacon. Take a nap. You'll feel better tomorrow.
    Bacon has too much protein in it. I don't want to get caught in the zone of misery. I'll have some heavy whipping cream mixed with spinach instead.

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    haha
    well then

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    who cares

    seriously

    no, i mean... seriously
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    yeah you are

    Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
    lol

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    ^ That doesn't mean much coming from you. You don't really care about anything.

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    sure i do

    i have a very select and exclusive set of cares

    but i have a question for you. think back, back to time immemorial. how would ancestral man have eaten 80% carbs?

    sure, fruit is the easiest. but fruit season is short and fruit itself spoils quickly.

    okay let's go to fall with, perhaps, starchy tubers. the edible tuber season is a few weeks at most.

    80/10/10 is not paleo. nutritional ketosis is not paleo. back then man ate whatever he could find that he knew wouldn't kill him (and sometimes in famine he had to hope and guess that something growing was edible), through knowledge passed down vocally through elder tribe members who experienced poisoning or watched other tribe members die from eating poisonous plant matter

    vast periods of famine with not long enough periods of feast are paleo. bug eating is paleo. hunting and inner organ eating is paleo. numbers counting is not
    beautiful
    yeah you are

    Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodorchid View Post
    sure i do

    i have a very select and exclusive set of cares

    but i have a question for you. think back, back to time immemorial. how would ancestral man have eaten 80% carbs?

    sure, fruit is the easiest. but fruit season is short and fruit itself spoils quickly.

    okay let's go to fall with, perhaps, starchy tubers. the edible tuber season is a few weeks at most.

    80/10/10 is not paleo. nutritional ketosis is not paleo. back then man ate whatever he could find that he knew wouldn't kill him (and sometimes in famine he had to hope and guess that something growing was edible), through knowledge passed down vocally through elder tribe members who experienced poisoning or watched other tribe members die from eating poisonous plant matter

    vast periods of famine with not long enough periods of feast are paleo. bug eating is paleo. hunting and inner organ eating is paleo. numbers counting is not
    You're assuming man in a climate such as what you describe. African climates have carby foods available for a much greater duration. However in a large study of current hunter-gatherers, not a single one was vegan. Pretty clear to me that vegan is not paleo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiltondeportes View Post
    You're assuming man in a climate such as what you describe. African climates have carby foods available for a much greater duration. However in a large study of current hunter-gatherers, not a single one was vegan. Pretty clear to me that vegan is not paleo.
    AFAIK there has never been a vegan civilization in all of known prehistory OR history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncephalized View Post
    AFAIK there has never been a vegan civilization in all of known prehistory OR history.
    You should visit San Francisco, Berkeley, Portland, and Olympia (WA).

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