I've been eating 2 entire watermelons a week for the past 2 months. If you're skipping out on fruit, I feel sorry for you.
Fruit > oil.
Fruit is a real, whole food. Oil is a man-made, processed food with ever-varying degrees of refinement and quality, and often from a questionable source (see: black market olive oil, varying quality of butter and environmental impacts of coconut and palm oil).
I'm guessing few people have qualms using oil for cooking or salads. Fruit is superior to oil in pretty much every way, shape and form, yet it gets a bad rap. I'll never understand it. A much smarter way to judge your food is to compare nutrition-per-calorie, not carbohydrate content. I challenge you to compare the least nutritious fruits to the most nutritious oils on a calorie-per-calorie basis.
Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.
Gotta love the Taubesians.
“If I didn't define myself for myself, I would be crunched into other people's fantasies for me and eaten alive.” --Audre Lorde
Sure you can run your body off any kind of junk you put in it, just take a look around you. I personally have two vegetarian roomates who eat loads of grains, fruits, vegetation, nuts, ect. and their health suffers obviously. If your eating 300 grams of carbohydrate a day and you feel it is the optimal the to run your body is on a plant based raw diet, perhaps you should leave the primal movement and join the raw foodist movement. They will welcome you with open arms. All these people want to talk about is living on a plant based diet, they don't want to hear about all of the dangers of glucose. And to get back on the original subject, fruit absolutely slows weight loss if it isn't restricted. I'm not saying it inhibits it, it drastically slows it and you would be better off avoiding it and most other carbohydrates for that matter. Why would I even want to eat something with fiber in it if my body can't even digest it? We don't have the enzymes to break down plant cellulose. We just don't have it, period. These are not personal opinons, these are scientific facts.
I am talking about the optimal way to run the body, and its by avoiding glucose and glycation through the low carbohydrate diet. This is one of the basics of the primal blueprint, to eat a carbohydrate restricted diet. Mark certainly does not advocate eating 300 grams of carb a day, or 200, or 150 for that matter.
"The Fat of the land" free ebook
Clinical study of Steffanson and Anderson
Two Brave Men Who Ate Nothing But Meat for an Entire Year
Great video on the imprtance of dietart fiber
Dietary Fiber covered by Dr. Greg Ellis - YouTube
Video on the dangers of glucose
Glucose Binds to Your Body Proteins Forming Glycated Proteins - YouTube
Glycation Causes Most Diseases by Dr. Greg Ellis - YouTube
Much more information are available through Dr. Ellis's videos, blog, and books. And you'll see as Ellis explains, you may not be have too many problems now but as you age, you will age rapidly with disease. Hope this information helps you guys, I know this was absolutely life changing information for me. I was personally an obese child. Scaled in at 216 pounds at the ripe old age of 15. I now look better, feel better, and am now 18 years old at a healthy health of 165 pounds. I also have gained a fairly significant amount of muscle mass for the amount of time I have been training and eating a carbohydrate restricted diet. I should also note that my first experiment with the paleolithic diet was Loren Cordains extremely flawed version. I too ate around 300 grams of carbohydrate a day on this diet, mostly in the form of fruit and was absolutely terrified by fat. I still lost 20 pounds within 2 months, but then I hit the wall. I finished my weight loss with primal blueprint and Dr. Ellis's recommendations, I lost the weight more rapidly and gained muscle mass while doing it. None of which Loren Cordain could have helped me with because I wasn't told to restrict carbohydrates or calories for that matter. I personally consume about 60- 80 grams of carbohydrate a day in the form of raw milk. The rest of my caloric intake is filled by eggs from my local farmer and plenty of meat and fat!
Last edited by BennettC; 08-30-2012 at 09:15 AM.
Using Steffason and the inuit as reasoning that an all meat diet is optimal. Lol.
There are definately cultures who existed wholly on animal products for sustenance, but that doesnt mean it's what we actually evolved on, Australopithicas was 4 million years of our evolution and they were just little fella's and they were most likely gatherers and scavangers, one step away from chimps, the meat eating didn't really come seriously until we got to Homo Habilis, the tool maker, at about 2.4 mya, and then we progressed through stages to homosapiens. which is only the last 200,000 years and we oly left Africa somewhere between 100,000-70,000 ya.
During most of this time our environment was mostly semi tropical, so it is likely that plant foods would have formed a significant part of our diet.
The other factor you need to consider is we are genetically lazy, to conserve energy for when it is really required, so if fruits were available, then picking fruit was easier than chasing an antelope.
Human gut flora is capable of digesting 98% of solouble fibre and up to 50% of insolouble fibre and contrary to what Dr Ellis says, they do not just form gas & toxic byproducts, they actually release Short Chain fatty acids which are absorbed by our intestine and provide a valuable contribution to our energy needs. There is an entire spectrum of diet choices, Vegan & Carnivore are the two extremes of human diet, but the healthiest position is likely somewhere in the middle.
You have obviously come a long way in your process and found a good place for yourself, but don't fall into the trap of knowing everything, there will always be more to learn.
Explain what is so funny about this? what information or studies to you have to offer?