Primal/Paleo is not for everyone, it's for those who have committed to understand.
READ THE BOOK! ...as Robb Wolf says: "Trying to convince people to save their own ass will burn you out."
Vegetarians are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit, and an affront to all I stand for -- the pure enjoyment of food.” Anthony Bourdain
and yes, calories DO count my little piggies
I will say that wheat is not the #1 baddie for me. It's more like the #1 baddie for whomever decides to stand behind me after I eat it.
Some of the Links James posted regarding the Mercola Soy Rebuttal
I had a bit of a look through, but it was late, I too would like to see more discussion on the Soy topic.
For me the main issue is the GM product & pesticide contamination and along with that if it is high enough in phytoestrogens to be considered therapeutic in some cases, then it should be treated as dangerous in others.
Also being a legume it goes in the 20% portion of which total legumes comprise less than 5% for me, so there isn't much room for Soy anyway.
Last edited by Omni; 08-19-2012 at 05:27 PM.
And this brings up another point. Omega 6 fatty acids serve useful purposes, and are not all dangerous. For example, AA is a pro-inflammatory omega 6 fatty acid while dihomo gamma linolenic acid (DGLA), derived from linoleic acid, is also an omega 6 fatty with anti-inflammatory properties. Although DGLA can convert in to AA.
Another thing that has to be kept in mind is that isolated compounds do not have the same properties as whole foods. Anti-inflammatory DGLA may convert in to inflammatory AA, but these are not the only compounds in soy that play a role in inflammatory responses. Soy also contains anti-inflammatory sterols.
You also mentioned that you are supplementing fish oil to balance out your omega 3 to 6 ratio. First of all why would you have to do that in the first place if your diet alone had a proper omega 3 to 6 ratio? Could it be to balance out all the inflammatory omega 6 fatty acids from the meat in your diet? This also brings up the point that humans do not consume one food, we consume a variety of foods. Soy may be high in linoleic acid, but again this can can convert in to both anti-inflammatory and inflammatory compounds. But this would only be an issue if all the person ate was soy. Just like if all someone ate was beef they are going to cause all sorts of problems including heart disease since beef is so high in the inflammatory omega 6 fatty acid AA. Since we eat varied diets though we can consume other compounds that keep the AA acid in check, or the resulting inflammation from AA.
Here are some of the rebuttals I have written in the past:
Weston Price Foundatoin's links to beef and dairy industries
Weston Price soy myths debunked
And since Mercola is now on the payroll of WAPF:
Addressing Mercola's anti-soy propaganda
I am not the only one that has called Mercola and WAPF on their bogus soy claims:
Mercola, Weston Price wrong on Soy "dangers"
If people want to stop generalizing about soy supposedly being dangerous and want to state specifically what they think is dangerous I will address those claims.
That's enough right there to reduce Dr. Daniel's credibility to near zero. If she is such a firm supporter of WAPF then she is likely just parroting the same old debunked claims WPF has made about soy.
If you have anything specifically though that you think she has correct bring it up and I will address it.
Simple, even if I Haven't done a thorough study: Soy = promotes estrogen growth = shown to cause breast cancer = no soy for me