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    Just starting and feeling defeated! (Please forgive the ranting)

    Hi everyone,

    I have been doing what I thought was great for a couple of months now. It started with the youtube video by Dr. Lustig. I heard it and gave up sugar on the spot. I felt better. I started reading and found Garry Taubes, Jimmy Moore, Caveman Doctor and finally this wonderful site. I gave up wheat and processed refined starches. I added delicious whole fats to my diet and started cooking in coconut oil -- amazing! I felt great and lost weight. I had energy. I got off some medication I had been on for years. I should have stopped reading.

    But no. I learned about the dangers of legumes and soy and started cutting back on my peanut butter. I decided I had to make my own mayo becuase of the soybean oil. Ok...I can still do this. I learned about grass fed beef and pastured eggs. I am feeling overwhelmed but looking into it.

    And then....I find out that my tuna, my favorite go to snack and quick meal is made with SOY!!! Its all enough to make me want to throw up my hands and give up. I honestly don't know if I can afford the grass fed, pastured meats. I don't know what I'm going to do if I have to give up my tuna as well as my peanut butter.

    This may be healthy, but darn its anything but simple! I'm starting to wonder if I can really live my whole life this way.

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    Tuna with soy? WTF?? Why don't you just by regular tuna in water? And get some salmon in a can, too, while you are at it.

    As for the meats, you don't have to eat grass fed or pastured meats. If you can find them and afford them, great, but if not, don't sweat it. Grass fed beef sometimes doesn't taste as good as corn fed. But pastured pork and chicken almost always tastes better. But no big deal. I eat standard stuff all the time, mostly because I like organ and variety meats and the only way I can get that without resorting to mail order is to get the non-grass fed stuff.

    I have a friend who all he did was go to FA (one of those anonymous groups for food addicts) and the prescription there is to abstain from sugar and flour. That's all he and his wife have done and they have had all the health improvements we all talk about here.

    Don't make it harder than it has to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    As for the meats, you don't have to eat grass fed or pastured meats.
    Why? I thought this was the premise of the Paleo to eat clean food and conventional meats certainly are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyH View Post
    Why? I thought this was the premise of the Paleo to eat clean food and conventional meats certainly are not.
    I get that you are one of the grass-fed pastured meat eating crusader but you cannot make that kind of carte blanche statements. It is misleading. Conventional meats might not be the pinnacle of 100% primal or paleo compliant eating, but it is certainly a step and a cut above eating SAD. smh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawyerchick12 View Post
    I get that you are one of the grass-fed pastured meat eating crusader but you cannot make that kind of carte blanche statements. It is misleading. Conventional meats might not be the pinnacle of 100% primal or paleo compliant eating, but it is certainly a step and a cut above eating SAD. smh
    I am sorry but you are wrong. In my opinion your are better off not eating it at all than eating hormones and antibiotics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyH View Post
    I am sorry but you are wrong. In my opinion your are better off not eating it at all than eating hormones and antibiotics.
    Nuff said

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    Seriously listen to SB Hikes. Dont make it too hard, work up to everything and if you are not 100% that is OK, relax, dont stress and enjoy your food. That is what the 80/20 rule is all about. A little bit of soy wont kill you, neither will a small fail every now and then, just do the best you can on your budget and you will see the results you want. I am a teacher and cannot afford grass fed beef, BUT I pay a bit more than conventional for excellent LOCAL beef, pork and chicken. I love it and get my smug factor from the lower carbon footprint and that Santa Cruz has plenty of grass to feed these cows so much of what they are eating is probably grass. Some things need to be organic (berries) and some not so much (bananas). Stress can be as harmfull as bad food so do not stress about what should be the best part of your day- EATING (ok, maybe the 2nd best part of your day if you have had a great night)
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    Thanks for the reminders to stay calm. The Tuna is regular tuna in water in a can. Its Bumblebee. I had no idea but most brands have soy as an ingredient. Look on your can. I know I can't shoot for 100% but at the beginning its hard to know what is important and what is not. Sometimes it seems that the posts on these topics make it feel as if each element is enough to destroy your health. Gluten is terrible, Soy is terrible, vegatable oils. Its overwhelming. But You guys are right.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traderjodie View Post
    Thanks for the reminders to stay calm. The Tuna is regular tuna in water in a can. Its Bumblebee. I had no idea but most brands have soy as an ingredient. Look on your can. I know I can't shoot for 100% but at the beginning its hard to know what is important and what is not. Sometimes it seems that the posts on these topics make it feel as if each element is enough to destroy your health. Gluten is terrible, Soy is terrible, vegatable oils. Its overwhelming. But You guys are right.
    Avoid wheat (and most other grains, while you're at it), avoid vegetable oils, avoid GM soy, and cut your sugar right back and you're probably over 90% there. It's important to not sweat the details too much; stress is probably more unhealthy than a lot of the things that some of us tend to stress about eating.

    Do what many of us do: if food advice says that what you want to eat is healthy, then take that as the Word of God. If food advice says that what you want to eat is unhealthy, then take that with a pinch of salt
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    I freaked out when I saw that my tuna had soy in it also. The front of the can reads tuna packed in water. Then you read the ingredients and see the soy. It sucks.

    I gave up tuna, and anything in a can. And almost anything in a jar. In fact, if it's packaged, I read the ingredients like some paranoid freakazoid. Because paranoid freakazoid I have become.

    The top of the food chain is where poisons concentrate. This is because if animals eat plants that are poison, the poison is more concentrated in the animal. So, when starting to allocate your food dollar on healthy food, start with animal products. When you start eating organic produce, search "the dirty dozen" and "the clean 15" to find out which plants you should try to buy organic and which you can get away with traditionally grown.

    You'll get there. You're only paranoid if they're not out to get you. And they are out to get you. heh.

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