I was veggie and had high cholesterol.
Has anyone pointed you to the Cholesterol primer? http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread4723.html
What is high cholesterol?
Primal/Paleo is not for everyone, it's for those who have committed to understand.
READ THE BOOK! ...as Robb Wolf says: "Trying to convince people to save their own ass will burn you out."
Vegetarians are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit, and an affront to all I stand for -- the pure enjoyment of food.” Anthony Bourdain
and yes, calories DO count my little piggies
To the OP, I think that vegetarians can eat very healthily depending on what 'flavour' they are (there are lots of high quality fish and egg protein sources out there). Vegans can be ok too as long as they supplement B12 (although that is a big one). I think it's hard to criticise vegans for needing to take supplements when a lot of people on here are taking dietary supplements.
Once you scratch the skin of a primal/paleo/vege/vegan person, I think that there are a lot more similarities than differences. All of them care about what they eat, presumably think that processed and industrially produced food is bad for you, etc etc. It's just that some veggies have a moral dimension to their choice of dietary restriction, which seems like it's not necessarily aligned with best nutrition (because if it was, you could make the argument solely on the grounds of nutrition, without emotional/moral appeals).
Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.
Griff's cholesterol primer
5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
bloodorchid is always right
I think some people do very well on a vegetarian diet! I was a vegetarian for a few years (for ethical reasons, too!) I basically stopped a few months ago and became pescetarian, and then started primal and went whole hog and started eating meat again. I didn't really WANT to eat meat, but I actually feel better, I have lost a bit of weight AND my hair's stopped falling out so much!! It's amazing how little I lose when I brush it these days . (This is very exciting as I'd had quite a few major shedding episodes, and even when I wasn't shedding I seemed to lose a lot of hair, and it was getting very thin and stringy... if things continue the way they are in 4 or so years my hair will look good again ).
Hair may not be something major BUT to me it's an indication that things weren't 100% right in my body... I can't say why, as the diet I ate seemed to be very good... but it is said that when your health suffers, things like hair and nails are the first to go, so I can only assume that internally things were not as good as they could be. I had no MAJOR health issues at all (at least none I know about!) but the fact that my hair has stopped falling suggests my body is suddenly getting something it NEEDS that I missed out on as a vegetarian. And, really, the most major difference in my diet is that I now eat meat!
That being said, I know vegans with thick, luscious hair... I just think, we're not all the same, and what works for one person won't necessarily work for another!
I'm quite a vain person, hence picking out this post, heh.
In going through these posts (the ones from people not on my ignore list), I don't see anyone mentioning that Mark's son is life-long vegetarian (and Mark is ok with it.)
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I honestly have no idea why my hair stopped shedding so much when I stopped being vegetarian, but I'm not going to complain! I find it quite interesting though.