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    Hungry and scared...

    So I started to go full Primal about two weeks ago. The first week was fine... managed not hunger issues lots of energy... This week I am about to die. I am so starving... I know that I am not really hungry cause i feel hungry even after I just ate a ton of food. I read through all the old post and found that its really common for females to be hungry on Primal and what I am experiencing is somewhat of a carb withdrawal but still I am hungry. I am also confused on the calories thing. Reading through all of those posts I figured out that a calorie counts.... so I use MyfitnessPal to track what I eat and my calories... but his week I am definitely ashamed. I went as far as to make a heavy cream and protein shake this morning...it actually satisfied me...but dang it had some calories in it..
    So to give you my stats.. I am 33 year old female. I am 5'3" and 245. HEAVY! Pretty sure that I am close to dying in my sleep. So I need to get this right. I need to do this. I would love some guidance on how many calories some one like me should be trying to eat...I am going to try to get more calories from fat next week see if that will help. MFP says I should aim for roughly 1500 cals to lose a pound a week...
    Natalie

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    Glad you made the leap! What's a typical day's food for you?
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    My advice would be to just allow yourself to adjust to primal way of eating before you worry about the calories. Eat primal foods foods, move slowly frequently ( I try to walk 5 miles a day ) and focus on your sleep. You may find you shed pounds just doing that initially. Once you are past low carb flu, you feel good, etc, then if your weight loss isn't what you want it to be, then consider eliminating certain foods ( alcohol, dairy, nuts) or just keeping overall calories down.

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    I agree that we need to know what you are eating. You should not be feeling that you are starving. Don't be ashamed of eating what satisfies you!
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    Fat is your friend.

    Healthy fats and quality protein will help your body feel fed. When it feels fed, it won't crave as badly. I use a lot of grass-fed butter, coconut oil, and good bacon. I also get 75% ground beef (grass-fed). I eat coconut chips (fat shreds - unsweetened) as "filler" food, for when I have the munchies.

    Yes, once in awhile I just really want to have something "off-road"... like tacos... but if I keep that to one meal, every couple of weeks or so, I think I'm doing okay.

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    I AM GONNA GIVE YOU ONE DAY LAST WEEK AND ONE DAY THIS WEEK...


    Last week:
    Breakfast
    2 EGG OMELETTE WITH ONIONS, PEPPERS, CHEDDAR CHEESE (1-2 OZ), 2 slices bacon
    Lunch
    Two burger patties, lettuce, tomato, pickle, packet of mayo and mustard (The Atkins burger from my work cafateria).
    Dinner
    Carne Asada (beef flank steak), sauted green and yellow squash with onions garlic, queso fresco (mexican cheese)
    Snack
    Carrots, a pluot, 3 cups coffee with non-dairy creamer..


    Today
    Breakfast
    half a pint of whipping cream mixed with one scoop protein powder (this was my I am tired of hunger meal), and leftover shrimp and octopus cocktel (cucumbers, tomato, avocado some ketchup)
    Lunch
    Grilled salmon and sauteed veggies (from the work cafeteria)
    Dinner
    1/3 stick cream cheese, and 2 oz smoked salmon and another bowl of the fruit cocktel
    Snack
    1 hard boiled egg

    After reading through the posts... I think I need more fat to help get rid of this hunger and then add more veggies...

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    more food! throw away that weight loss calculator. you're a big girl and 1500 cals is starving yourself. more leafy greens, more meat, more eggs. as your body heals and the weight starts to go you can reduce calories and it won't be painful. stop tormenting yourself. starving is just gonna make you go off the rails.

    careful with the condiments and the fruit cocktail. tons o' sugar there. also that non-dairy creamer is super-junk -- a can full of weird industrial oils.

    as others have said your body is crying for nutrition. feed it. feed it. heal it.

    are you taking any supplements? vitamin d3 and magnesium will definitely help you.

    i do best with a nice big 1st meal. this morning i had some ground beef, 3 strips of bacon and 3 eggs with a huge zucchini and some jalapeno peppers. that was at 10 and i doubt i'll want something else til 5 or 6.
    As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

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    I'd maybe watch it downing an entire cup of heavy cream. It's good stuff but you're talking 800+ calories and 80+ fat in one cup. Other than that, your diet looks pretty good!

    Let me ask this, before you went primal, what would you estimate your daily intake was? I know that way back when I started, mine was off the charts, and it took a while for me to adjust. In my days of being 350 lbs I retroactively figured out I was eating around 6,000 calories per day and probably in the neighborhood of 500-600 carbs. So it might be best to slowly wean yourself down. I can vouch that I was definitely hungry early on, but after about a week of the hunger pangs it did gradually go away and less food would fill me up. Your stomach will gradually shrink as you put less food into it. The best thing is to try to keep yourself busy so you're not eating out of boredom (I know I did ).

    p.s. the fruit cocktail, are you making sure that's not some canned stuff in sugar syrup?
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    As to my diet before Primal... I had about a month of just low calorie MFP watching what I ate... it had be at about 1500... I could do that for a bit... but would lose it and binge to 2500... a lot of days I would hit 1800-2200... and that was watching what i ate....I usually would be able to do the restricted calorie for a bit then get depress and quit and then go back...horrible horrible cycle

    i will say that I probably will not down the cream like I did today but I was definitely not starving like the last couple of days... I guess I gotta figure out how to add more fat to satiate me. Tomorrow I am gonna try the bullet proof coffee to see if that gets me


    Oh the fruit cockail... is a mexican style shrimp seafood cocktail.... cucumbers, tomatoes, onions, avacado, and seafood... the only bad thing it has in it was the ketchup which i found out is quite high in carbs... bummer

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    Quote Originally Posted by obsessed View Post
    Tomorrow I am gonna try the bullet proof coffee to see if that gets me ...
    There's that damn drink again...

    Those are empty calories, and a LOT of them. Instead of that, why not make your omelette a four-egger instead of a two-egger? It'll be less calories and way more "primal".

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