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    Oh, Nuts... Addicted to O6!

    Now that a Grok life is at the point of being easy on the macro-level, I'm learning more about the micro side of things a bit more. I came to a realization that I'm consuming way, way too much O6.

    I love nuts, especially almonds. As embarrassed as I am to say this in such a dedicated primal community, I honestly eat at least 1/4 cup (!!!!) of almond butter, almonds, or hazelnuts at least 4 days per week. Easily.

    I used paleotrack.com to check out my last few days of food, and the only issue is my 6:3 ratio. Today, so far, it is 117.3-to-1... I shit you not...

    Can anyone give me an insight into the following?

    - What could this be doing to my body? I'm not feeling ill; in fact, for the past 7 weeks of this lifestyle, I feel better than ever, especially mentally.
    - Is anyone else an O6/nut-lover like myself? How do you overcome this other than the obvious "get the shit out of your house if you can't control yourself!" mantra.

    I used to be an obsessive Calorie-counter, so I'm fine with tracking my food... but that's a slippery slope for me and can turn into a food obsession like it has in the past, so I'd like to avoid having to monitor my ratios numerically.

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    I was addicted to almond butter, all kinds of nut butters before, but they are binge triggering, and they gave me big bloating and digestive issues, I seem to put on fat quite easily eating them.
    So I limit my consumption to once in a blue moon, and I lost the taste I had for it. It's just too heavy to digest I guess, even the taste is satisfying after only a little bit of it.

    I have a question related to this, and I didn't want to create another thread, is there anything bad with having more O3 than O6 ?
    I just discovered Paleotrack, and right now my ratio appears to be like this :

    Omega-6 : omega-3 ratio
    7.2 g : 8.9 g
    0.8:1

    I also take 3 or 4 pills of ~1g O3 (fish oil) so I'm kind of worried my ratio is too exaggerated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daydreamer View Post
    I was addicted to almond butter, all kinds of nut butters before, but they are binge triggering, and they gave me big bloating and digestive issues, I seem to put on fat quite easily eating them.
    So I limit my consumption to once in a blue moon, and I lost the taste I had for it. It's just too heavy to digest I guess, even the taste is satisfying after only a little bit of it.

    I have a question related to this, and I didn't want to create another thread, is there anything bad with having more O3 than O6 ?
    I just discovered Paleotrack, and right now my ratio appears to be like this :

    Omega-6 : omega-3 ratio
    7.2 g : 8.9 g
    0.8:1

    I also take 3 or 4 pills of ~1g O3 (fish oil) so I'm kind of worried my ratio is too exaggerated.
    I'm pretty sure more O3 than 6 is worse than the other way around.
    well then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daydreamer View Post
    I was addicted to almond butter, all kinds of nut butters before, but they are binge triggering, and they gave me big bloating and digestive issues, I seem to put on fat quite easily eating them.
    So I limit my consumption to once in a blue moon, and I lost the taste I had for it. It's just too heavy to digest I guess, even the taste is satisfying after only a little bit of it.

    I have a question related to this, and I didn't want to create another thread, is there anything bad with having more O3 than O6 ?
    I just discovered Paleotrack, and right now my ratio appears to be like this :

    Omega-6 : omega-3 ratio
    7.2 g : 8.9 g
    0.8:1

    I also take 3 or 4 pills of ~1g O3 (fish oil) so I'm kind of worried my ratio is too exaggerated.
    Thanks for your comment!

    Although the primal thing has been going on for nearly 2 months now (and started the 21-Day Sugar Detox 6 days ago), I still have a major tummy-bloating problem. I seriously look pregnant by the end of the day - my lower belly is seriously perfectly round and sticks out about 2 inches from how it normally is in the morning.

    Is bloating a side-effect from eating too many nuts? I also wonder if I'm retaining fat, even though my current carb consumption is consistently under 70g per day since being primal.

    Also, based on a few threads I found around the forums about PaleoTrack.com, the site is apparently kind of wonky. The values they give for some of the fatty acids and other micronutrients can be inaccurate, so many folks stopped using the site to track that kind of stuff.
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    I love nuts too! I eat.. a lot.. I eat walnuts and pecans almost everyday.
    This is adding ot the question: what is there to eat besides nuts that will fill me up the same and just as low in carbs.

    In the beginning of going Primal I felt good too, but lately I've been tired and very unmotivated to move... could be the nuts..

    (crap.. already at my 1/2 cup today..)

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    elan, try coconut in some of its forms, like coconut flakes or that kind of stuff.
    It doesn't have the O6 problem and is very high in sat fats, and very low in carbs

    MissJecka, I don't know if it's a common side effect but it's something I've been experiencing quite often when I overindulge with nuts.

    Do any of you know a good iPod Touch/iPhone app that provides calories/macro tracking but ALSO micronutrients like O3/O6...etc ? Thank you very much !
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissJecka View Post
    I honestly eat at least 1/4 cup (!!!!) of almond butter, almonds, or hazelnuts at least 4 days per week. Easily.
    A whole quarter of a cup? Oh my GOD!!!

    Relax about such a minimal amount of almond butter. Come back when you're eating the whole jar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    A whole quarter of a cup? Oh my GOD!!!

    Relax about such a minimal amount of almond butter. Come back when you're eating the whole jar.
    I actually said at least 1/4 cup, meaning more often than not, I eat upwards of 1/3 cup or more of the stuff. Just today, for instance, I finished off the last 1/2 cup that was at the bottom of the jar... and I could honestly have eaten more if there was more left... and don't think that means I won't end up eating a handful of hazelnuts with dinner! I'm insatiable when it comes to these damned things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissJecka View Post
    I actually said at least 1/4 cup, meaning more often than not, I eat upwards of 1/3 cup or more of the stuff. Just today, for instance, I finished off the last 1/2 cup that was at the bottom of the jar... and I could honestly have eaten more if there was more left... and don't think that means I won't end up eating a handful of hazelnuts with dinner! I'm insatiable when it comes to these damned things.
    I hate to break the bad news to you but you have done irrevocable damage to your body by eating 1/3 of a cup of almond butter (for numerous days). I would get your affairs in order.


    For the last 2 weeks I have eaten 30oz of chicken every day. I was worried about the omega six I was consuming until I realized, oh wait, I wasn't concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernaldo View Post
    I hate to break the bad news to you but you have done irrevocable damage to your body by eating 1/3 of a cup of almond butter (for numerous days). I would get your affairs in order.
    Agreed. It's one hell of a vice. As the title of this thread says, I'm addicted to O6 - in this case, nuts. I do consume a lot of fish; it's probably my 3rd greatest protein source (after eggs and chicken)... I just don't eat enough of it to get enough O3 to compensate for the excess 6 I keep guzzling. I just find nuts to satisfy my palate even if they're not satisfying my body as much as I'd like. (I'm never constipated or physically uncomfortable, except for bloating, as a result of eating so much of the stuff, so I never saw it as an issue.)

    I think I just need to go the route I did with the bad stuff (wheat, soy, etc.) in the beginning of my lifestyle shift - get it out of my house. It's just pitiful that I have to be so in love with something as simple as nuts. That's how I stopped eating wheat and now I don't miss it at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by teach2183 View Post
    I suggest eating more food with your meals so you aren't hungry for snacks. And then make sure you are hungry before you reach for the nuts. I was going through a lot of nuts the first couple months of this WOE, snacking nearly every day. But now I make a conscious effort to eat more at meals so I'm not hungry between meals. And "magically" my nut consumption has gone down. I'm not one to eat them with meals typically, so cutting out the snacking cut out the nuts.
    I actually don't snack. I eat two meals per day, maybe three. I have many components to my meals: a good amount of meat, half a plate of veggies, and usually some kind of tuber or fruit on the side with nuts or nut butter accompanying the fruit/starch. I don't snack on them unless I actually am legitimately tummy-grumbling hungry and something comes up in my schedule and I need something quick on the way out the door.
    Last edited by MissJecka; 08-17-2012 at 11:33 AM.
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