Lots of fat, with no starch or carbs? Or vice versa? page

[Rasputina]

If you fuel your body with a lot of fat, say a stick of butter, or a half cup of coconut oil per day, then throw a sweet potato and rice on top of that, doesn't your body burn the potato and rice first, storing the fat? So, if you choose the sweet potato or rice, should you limit additional fat? Eating high fat and any amount of starch has resulted in instant weight-gain for many a primal-eating person.Is it lots of fat- sans carbs and starch? Or carbs and starch-sans fat?
Or, is it- protein and veg, sans additional fat and starch?

P.S. sans= without, for the laymen.

[Silky]

If you fuel your body with a lot of fat, say a stick of butter, or a half cup of coconut oil per day, then throw a sweet potato and rice on top of that, doesn't your body burn the potato and rice first, storing the fat? So, if you choose the sweet potato or rice, should you limit additional fat? Eating high fat and any amount of starch has resulted in instant weight-gain for many a primal-eating person.Is it lots of fat- sans carbs and starch? Or carbs and starch-sans fat?
Or, is it- protein and veg, sans additional fat and starch?

Why would anyone eat a stick of butter followed by rice? What kind of crazy weird shit is that?
Remind me not to come to your house for dinner - lol

[Rasputina]

Why would anyone eat a stick of butter followed by rice? What kind of crazy weird shit is that?
Remind me not to come to your house for dine ear -lol

I don't eat a frakkin stick of butter, followed by rice, lol. I actually don't usually eat either. I do, occasionally eat full-on buttery-ass popcorn, but that's rare and special

[Forgotmylastusername]

Fat gets stored easily no matter what you eat it with. Which doesn't matter at all as long as you're eating within caloric balance it gets released for fuel during meals. The only reason people would gain weight eating starch is if they're not adjusting they're fat/protein when adding starch. You can't expect to add another 400 calories a day and not gain weight.

[Iron Fireling]

The insulin released when the carbohydrate is ingested causes the body to store fat. Thus if you don't eat the carbohydrate, you don't get the insulin released and your body is less likely to store the fat (or store as much of it). At least that's how I understand it . This is why it's a very bad idea to eat foods both high in fat AND high in carbohydrates.

[Forgotmylastusername]

Protein stimulates an insulin release. Pretty much everything you eat is going to cause an insulin response.

[Dirlot]

It not the fact there is an insulin response it it the size the insulin response.

[Forgotmylastusername]

That's basically irrelevant.

[Dirlot]

Are you saying a high sugar hit, causing a high insulin hit leading to a blood sugar crash and increased hunger is the same as a protein slowly ingested over a prolonged low level insulin rise at a low level?
Oh please explain...

[Iron Fireling]

It not the fact there is an insulin response it it the size the insulin response.

That's basically irrelevant.

How is that irrelevant? Please explain, then, how you could take in EXACTLY the same number of calories on one diet (say low fat, high carb) and gain weight, but on a high fat low carb diet you can lose weight with the same number of calories?? To me the answer is: insulin.

There was a study conducted back in the 50s that put people on 1000 calorie a day diets. One group had 90% fat, one had 90% protein, and one had 90% carb. Those on the carb diet actually put ON weight, while those on the high fat diet lost about 0.9lbs A DAY (those on the protein lost a bit less, about 0.6lbs a day from memory).

Obviously the energy intake was the same BUT the result was very, very different.