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    Steady state cardio can reduce muscle mass....considering the obese may tend toward this type of exercise this may be one reason they were finding that the obese lowered metabolism. If you want to make a good investment buy The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living/Performance two books or just the second one will work. Living is just less focused on Performance not as narrow of a focus. You should also read Body By Science. It details the ins and outs of high intensity interval training and high intensity weight lifting both of which are completely superior to steady state cardio for everything including cardiovascular health.

    They even go into epi-genetics....such an awesome book.

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    Check out this thread and the comments. You have two older people talking about amazing stuff being keto adapted.

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    Some great stuff.
    Age: 28
    Height: 6'1"
    Primal start date: July 1st 2011
    Start Weight: 275
    Current Weight: 248
    Stats below as of September 1st 2011 Tested via BodPod
    Body Fat 25.4%
    Fat Mass 63.721
    Fat Free Mass 74.6%
    Fat Free Mass 187.087
    Goal weight: 180-200 lbs(Recommended weight is around 180 for my height but that sounds low)
    Total lost so far: 27 lbs

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    Thanks for the links.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiken3712 View Post
    Steady state cardio can reduce muscle mass....considering the obese may tend toward this type of exercise this may be one reason they were finding that the obese lowered metabolism. If you want to make a good investment buy The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living/Performance two books or just the second one will work. Living is just less focused on Performance not as narrow of a focus. You should also read Body By Science. It details the ins and outs of high intensity interval training and high intensity weight lifting both of which are completely superior to steady state cardio for everything including cardiovascular health.

    They even go into epi-genetics....such an awesome book.

    Jimmy Moore

    Check out this thread and the comments. You have two older people talking about amazing stuff being keto adapted.

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    Some great stuff.
    This may sound weird. When I was on my lap top I saw a horizontal line and you posted personal stats from a bodpod. Yet as you can see, logged in on this computer it isn't there.

    Did you post your free fat mass was 187.087?
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    Its part of my sig...the numbers were from a Bod Pod body composition done in September 2011.

    Stats below as of September 1st 2011 Tested via BodPod
    Body Fat 25.4%
    Fat Mass 63.721
    Fat Free Mass 74.6%
    Fat Free Mass 187.087

    187.087+63.721 = 250 pounds Is something weird about that? Fat free mass is muscle, bone, connective tissue and such as well.

    I have no clue about current numbers I want to get another BodPod or a DEXA scan at some point. Wish I could get it for free, but BodPod is 45 mins away..not sure I want the hassle. DEXA is available closer but I've heard its 75-200 dollars. I have no insurance.
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    Age: 28
    Height: 6'1"
    Primal start date: July 1st 2011
    Start Weight: 275
    Current Weight: 248
    Stats below as of September 1st 2011 Tested via BodPod
    Body Fat 25.4%
    Fat Mass 63.721
    Fat Free Mass 74.6%
    Fat Free Mass 187.087
    Goal weight: 180-200 lbs(Recommended weight is around 180 for my height but that sounds low)
    Total lost so far: 27 lbs

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    I have used a bodpod also. They are quite accurate.

    With a fat free mass of 187 lbs, then a goal of 207 to 220 lbs. would put you in a very healthy 10 to 15% body fat range.

    Great job

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    10%-15% is awesome...My guess for an ideal body weight has always been 200-210. Its interesting to have someone say that number.

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    This calc says with a 40" waist which I recently measured my lean body mass is 196.4 49.5 fat mass
    Ideal weight is listed as 166.8 for 6'1" 28 year old male

    I've always thought the ideal weights on these calculators were crazy....maybe because they don't factor in frame size... 166.8 sounded really low to me.
    Age: 28
    Height: 6'1"
    Primal start date: July 1st 2011
    Start Weight: 275
    Current Weight: 248
    Stats below as of September 1st 2011 Tested via BodPod
    Body Fat 25.4%
    Fat Mass 63.721
    Fat Free Mass 74.6%
    Fat Free Mass 187.087
    Goal weight: 180-200 lbs(Recommended weight is around 180 for my height but that sounds low)
    Total lost so far: 27 lbs

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    Anything using BMI doesn't consider muscle mass. It looks at all mass as bad, were we know leam mass is healthy.
    The body is very complicated to make it simple. The signal to the body to loose body fat is eating lots of protein. That tells the body things are plentiful and there is no need to store. Based on your stats you need around 200 grams of protein a day.
    High intensity with short duration exercise is the signal to build muscle mass which includes creating healthy organs. The key is a series of sets that raises you heart rate way up and then let it come down before you take it up again.

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    So 166.7 is ideal because its 22 bmi and if the weight were higher I would be a higher BMI? That isn't ideal at all....they really need to redo their ideal weight numbers. What they view as ideal makes no sense at all. Though I guess no calculator give you a good ideal weight without knowing what you want from it. It would be cool if they included a few entries for calculating ideal body fat % based on what you want.

    I guess I can just test it heh. Get down to 15% if I feel like I want a lower % I can go lower than heh. Lately I've been thinking 10-12 is good...I don't need lower unless I want to be an elite athlete or something.
    Age: 28
    Height: 6'1"
    Primal start date: July 1st 2011
    Start Weight: 275
    Current Weight: 248
    Stats below as of September 1st 2011 Tested via BodPod
    Body Fat 25.4%
    Fat Mass 63.721
    Fat Free Mass 74.6%
    Fat Free Mass 187.087
    Goal weight: 180-200 lbs(Recommended weight is around 180 for my height but that sounds low)
    Total lost so far: 27 lbs

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    I believe that exercise does make your metabolism more efficient. I also think that the last thing you want is an inefficient metabolism. What evolutionary advantage would that confer?

    Here's a series of photos of myself as I hiked the Pacific Crest Trail. A continuous calorie deficit and extreme amounts of slow cardio exercise led at first to weight loss and then ultimately to weight gain.
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    Female, 5'3", 49, Starting weight: 163lbs. Current weight: 135 (more or less).
    Starting squat: 45lbs. Heaviest squat: 180 x 2. Heaviest Deadlift: 230 x 2

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    Age: 28
    Height: 6'1"
    Primal start date: July 1st 2011
    Start Weight: 275
    Current Weight: 248
    Stats below as of September 1st 2011 Tested via BodPod
    Body Fat 25.4%
    Fat Mass 63.721
    Fat Free Mass 74.6%
    Fat Free Mass 187.087
    Goal weight: 180-200 lbs(Recommended weight is around 180 for my height but that sounds low)
    Total lost so far: 27 lbs

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