
Originally Posted by
sbhikes

Originally Posted by
Leida
Yes, but the Native Americains of that period are all but devastated by booze, smoke and disease, and the displacement from the traditional lands. The cultures with bloated stomachs are a result of systematic starvation and malnutrition. While we have a lifestyle disadvantage, we do have a nutritional advantage despite the problem of cheap low quality processed foods. I think it is actually folks who eat poorly who would look more like those malnourished tribes, only larger since they have access to >> foods..... I am still going with the Greeks as the best example of a civilization that had a nutritional variety & limited but sufficient food supply & low sugar intake.

Originally Posted by
Knifegill
Let's not pretend pot-bellies are a sign of health. Yes, wild humans often look like that when they are hosting swarms of writhing worms. You're going to have some trouble convincing me to add tapeworms to my body to achieve a natural body composition. Yes, parasites lower cholesterol - and that's bad anyway. Moderately lean with a little fat for warmth and energy makes perfect sense.
I didn't respond to these comments initially but they really bothered me. We look at primitive men and don't dismiss them as unhealthy and alcoholic. We think they are healthy and Mark even wrote a whole book inspiring us to try and be like them. But we look at primitive women and see all kinds of flaws and say ew, they look awful, they must be sick and diseased. Did anybody ever consider that some of those women might be pregnant? Did it occur to anyone that maybe thin arms, no 6-packs, no arm muscles, smooth, soft bodies with no particularly hourglass shape, little tummy rolls that hang over our grass skirts is what women actually really truly look like? I don't have worms and I'm not an alcoholic and I look more like those women than I ever will look like the lady on the cover of Shape or Cosmo. We're all so concerned with weight loss because we are held to an impossible standard. When do we women get OUR grok to live up to?
Female, 5'3", 48, Starting weight: 163lbs. Current weight: 135.
Starting bench press: 30lbs. Current bench press: 75lbs.