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    Get Primal, I have subscribed to your blog. I am so excited to find other endurance athletes to learn from and forge this marriage of endurance and primal living.

    nzkoobi, I love raisins because they are so high in simple carbs. There is NO reason to use gels when you can just eat raisins.

    Confession time....my last two Ironmans my nutrition on the bike was candy. A mix of almond M&Ms, skittles, and raisinets! Plus Gatorade Endurance Formula. No fancy sports products for me, but not primal either! I started using raisins and nuts in training but I have stopped racing so haven't tried the nuts in races yet.


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    The PB lifestyle definitely works with endurance training with a few modifications. I started out last year and blogged my 30-day PB challenge in the lead up to a marathon (sub 3hrs) and a 90km trail race where I set a course record. My blog can be found at http://www.primalrunner.blogspot.com


    I am starting to get more focused again as I have the same marathon and 90k run in the next four weeks and three weeks later I'm thinking about racing a 100km trail race in New Zealand while holidaying with the family.


    I'll be following the PB lifestyle while training up to 200km per week. I'll be interested to see how others get along.


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    Thanks for the posts everyone.


    Jessher - I have got into raisins while running longer efforts over an hour. Definitely will persist with these.


    Get Primal - I have not yet made the pumpkin loaf - how much pumpkin is half a can? I'll be using fresh so please give me a weight and I'll have a go.


    Primal Runner - thanks for the link. I have subscribed to your blog. I liked your recent post which included your diet outline. This is very helpful to me.


    Do any of you ever feel lethargic or a little light headed while going primal / low carb? This has been my experience and I'm not sure what is causing it. My head feels like I have just been punched - sort of dizzy/sick type of feeling. I am in good health and mentally sound!! I am also pretty fit and not any more tired than normal. I am a 46 year old male weighing 60kg. 165 cms tall.


    Any thoughts!!


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    nzkoobi-I experience headaches/lightheadedness frequently as well, which disappears when I eat a few more carbs. However, I obviously don't want to have to do this. My recent line of thinking is to try and figure out if I am deficient in a certain nutrient that is commonly found in carby foods, and then find a way of getting that nutrient(s) through a better source. Have yet to figure it out. However, I feel it a lot more in the extreme when I am logging more miles, so I'm guessing it is something that is depleted when running. Perhaps vitamin B complexes is what I have guessed as a possibility in the last several days.


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    I don't experience headaches but certainly lightheadedness. I was wondering if my body needed to re-adjust to having less carbs and that it might be a few days of discomfort and then I wold be over the worst of it. However I ate some carbs and feel pretty normal today.


    Ran for about an hour tonight but did eat an apple and almond flour biscuit before starting and some raisins halfway through. Felt ok but not full of energy.


    Was a good low carb day including an orange, 2 kiwi fruit, an apple and some raisins and two pears.


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    Have been trying the almonds and raisins recently. Ran a marathon a week ago and was quite flat at the 29km mark so started my almonds / raisins there. Ate some more at about 35kms. Did not notice any great energy revival but I managed to finish comfortably enough just under 4 hours (which is pretty slow primal running!)

    On reflection I may have been better eating some earlier on - maybe from 5kms or so.


    Any primal marathoners with suggestions?


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    Grok didn't run marathons........


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    nzkoobi, I would say about 300g of pumpkin for the recipe.


    Grok didn't run marathons...because there weren't such thing as marathons at the time. Times change, we aren't preoccupied with finding food for survival so we engage in other activities. I agree that marathon training isn't the best thing we can do for our overall health, but doing what you enjoy is important as well. You could most certainly do worse things for your health.


    Regarding the food before and after training runs...I usually eat nothing before runs up to and including 20 miles. I'll usually ingest nothing but water during the run, then have a typical primal meal following the run. Never 'carb load' before or after any run regardless of length.


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    I wouldn't call running marathons healthy. Not in the slightest. One might have good cardiovasular health as a result of training and being able to run a marathon, but that's it. It's very hard on your feet and leg joints, and it does nothing for upper body strength.


    There's a reason Mark doesn't do cardio any more, and at 2 hours, 15 minutes, his personal best IIRC, he certainly knows the positives and negatives about long distance running.


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    Have you read the book 'Born to Run'? Not sure I agree with it but some interesting perspectives. It talks a lot about running barefoot or with minimalist footwear. More like our primal ancestors! It talks about tribes inAfrica that run down food but the primary focus is on the tarahumara indians in mexico and the ultra marathoning community. It talks about them using Chia seeds, soaked so they become gell like and then mixed with another ingredient I don't recall.


    The book was a little tough to get into but once into it I found it a pretty good read, although I don't necessarily agree wtih all of it.

    Cheers

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