Newbie Grokkster needs advice :)
I have been strictly Paleo for about 3 weeks now. (no dairy, no grains, some nightshades). I lost about 7lb my first week and then it slowed down to barely 1 - 1.5 lb for the next 2 weeks. I also keep going through these ups and downs in my general well being. I feel energized for a few days then sluggish and achy all over for a few days. My diet is pretty much the same on those days, so I can't figure out what this is. I always thought the "low carb flu" only affects people who are eating less than 50 g of carbs per day and I'm usually between 50-70. Plus I thought once you have the "flu" once, then you're good to go. And I keep bouncing in and out of it.
Another thing is that my sleep is still not great. I can't help but nap when I'm in a sluggish day and then my circadian rhythms are all messed up. I tried very low carb in the past and couldn't sleep for weeks, so I'm keeping my carbs a bit higher to avoid it and it still seems to cause problems.
I do record my food, I know some people here are against it, but I'm a bit of a nerd, so I like having data to analyze. I have my "reports" in pdf format if anyone wants to give it a look-see.
The one good thing is that I'm definitely not feeling hungry. Sometimes I have to make myself go eat, because I don't want to go too long without food, but I'm not really feeling hungry yet. My meals are usually 4-6 hours apart, sometimes longer, but that's more typical.
So my questions are:
1) Why did my weight loss slow down so significantly so quickly?
2) Why am I going in and out of "flu" and why am I even having the "flu" if I'm not really that low in carbs?
3) I'll take any advice on sleep - it's driving me crazy :/
4) I'm hoping people can share how long it was for them until they felt great all the time
Last edited by NinaV; 08-11-2012 at 02:43 PM.
Carb flu is the achey/yucky feelings which is normal. it's a sort of clear-out -- particularly if what you ate had a fair amount of chemicals in addition to that which is in grains that makes us feel yucky (but we're used to it after a while because yucky = normal).
For sleep, I recommend winding yourself down early. Turn off tv/computers/etc at about a half hour or hour after sundown, then go with dim lighting or candle light and conversation and then into quiet and bedtime. it can help a lot.
In regards to food, in addition to recording what you eat, go ahead and count calories if you like data points. you might notice that an adjustment of 50-100 calories either direction could make the difference for you. If you are forcing yourself to eat, consider eating a little less if yu want to eat meals every 4-6 hours.
1. You lost water weight your first week. Those first seven pounds don't really matter. 1-1.5 pounds per week is a fine rate for weight loss. Some people don't lose anything for weeks, until their body heals certain things. Weight loss rate also depends heavily on how much you have to lose, which isn't clear. Someone who has 200 pounds can drop 50 in a month sometimes. People who have 20 pounds to lose can take months to lose it.
2. Maybe you need more primal carbs?
3. Magnesium I forget which kind is best for this), and maybe more carbs.
4. Sorry, wasn't really keeping track then.
Thank you for the responses.
Some follow up:
When I say that I record what eat, I mean that I keep track of calories, carbs, everything. So I pretty much know exactly what I eat, I weigh and measure things, yes, I am that anal
I know that the first week is water weight, I was just expecting more of a loss . I have over 100 pounds to lose, so I was kind of hoping for at least 2-3 pounds for the first few months, when I read some posts here on the forum, it seems that many people have lost that much or even more. But it does make sense that my body might need to do some healing before it can concentrate of losing fat. I didn't eat a lot of processed junk before Paleo, but I did eat grains and dairy.
I am forcing myself to eat (sometimes), because if I don't, I'll end up with 800-1000 calories a day and that just can't be healthy for someone of my current size.
As to the "flu", I was pretty much wondering if anyone else was going in and out of it for the first few weeks/months as well, or is it just me?
jfreaksho, I will try magnesium, I think that might be helpful.
Last edited by NinaV; 08-11-2012 at 07:04 PM.
you might find that your body cycles. that some days you want 1000 cals a day, and then another day you want 1600 to 1800. Your body has a lot of body fat, so it will turn to that to fuel itself, so I wouldn't worry about it overmuch, really.
I don't believe in force feeding myself though. There are days where I really don't eat at all -- i just don't want to. I've always been like that, though.
Hmm maybe you should try dropping your carbs a bit lower and see what happens? With slightly higher carbs you may not be fully fat burning yet (try dropping the sweet potato, for example). I'm not sure how much a difference it will make, but it's worth a shot to really try and push your body to become fully fat burning!
That's what I was saying in one of the earlier replies - if I drop carbs any lower, I can't sleep at all
Originally Posted by Iron Fireling
Have you tried other methods of getting to sleep? For example, turning down the lights when it starts to get dark outside, avoiding computer screens etc. etc. You may need to find a way to increase your melatonin production which should offset any benefits you get from carbs helping you sleep (it seems to me that if you NEED more carbs to sleep, there's something wrong?!).
Originally Posted by NinaV
Originally Posted by NinaV
a) Women tend to take a little longer to "kick in". Give it another 3 weeks.
b) you don't mention your starting weight or goal weight. Significant losses are noticed when you have more to lose, and slows down considerably the closer you get to your optimal weight range.
c) You don't mention exactly WHAT you're eating, or how much. Restricting calories and/or fat can stall you. Or, you may be eating more than you think.
d) measure yourself. Not all losses/changes are measured in pounds. (did you read Friday's success story on the main page?)
2) are you eating enough? You have to power through it. Eat for optimal health during this time, not weight loss. Get over the carb flu, then tweak your food for body composition. (honestly I didn't know I *had* a carb flu until I looked back on it weeks/months later. I had been sick with a cold about 3 weeks primal, and thought I had a nasty virus.)
3) the sleep issue is causing you stress. Stress will stall weight loss. Get black out blinds for your windows. I use a noise machine sometimes (rain is my favorite). I also have a meditation routine that is so effective that all I have to do is think "go to my beach" and I'm out so quick I never get to the beach! Damn. There was a hot stone massage waiting for me.
4) first week I noticed some changes in how I felt (no edema, no gas & bloating, no headaches). Except for the nasty cold/flu week, I felt pretty good all the time. Lighter, clearer in my head. 6 weeks and started noticing changes in how my clothes fit. I don't weigh myself, and I haven't changed my activity level.
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There are no cheat days. There are days when you eat primal and days you don't. As soon as you label a day a cheat day, you're on a diet. Don't be on a diet. ~~ Fernaldo
DAINTY CAN KISS MY PRIMAL BACKSIDE. ~~ Crabcakes
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