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    Hi all,

    My first post on this forum, and I am sure it will get some negative feed back. A brief background, I am 41 years old and have been active my whole life. My hobby is running which I love, I run half marathons, marathons, and 50k's and many other races throughout the year. I grew up eating lots of bread, I love pretzels, and love carbs, everything that is not primal, but I do eat healthy. I do not have problems with cholesterol levels, blood pressure, and never been over weight. I know eating primal is a way of life, not a diet, I did read the primal blueprint book.

    I have been following the primal protocol and it does makes sense, but I cheat, allot. I love pizza, will never give it up. And I especially love beer I do run allot and can't see myself totally depleting my carb intake to low measures. I guess my question is, is there anyone else out there that follows the primal diet but not 100%?

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    welcome. do what you like. but flat out, you're confusing grains with carbs. primal/paleo/whatever you call it is NOT LOW CARB. There are a ton of us on this forum who are athletes and very active and most certainly not low carb eaters. that being said, once you lump yourself in to a term like primal or paleo, then by definition you are "cheating" on the diet. if you choose to just clean your diet up and cut down on unhealthy food choices, then you can just live and enjoy your pizza once a week or a few beers a week and not stress about cheating. if you are indulging in things like that more often than that, then you really aren't eating healthy to begin with. and if you're stuck on labels, mark built in the 80/20 rule for people just like you

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    Thanks, not on the rug! My whole life is about eating healthy, even as kid for some reason. Before even knowing about "primal" eating, I was eating somewhat similar. To be honest I am still confused on the whole grain thing, but will educate myself more.

    That's the thing, I don't want to label myself but like I said before I like the concept of primal eating. The 80/20 rule definitely applies to me when I read about it. For breakfast I have stopped with the bread, bagels, etc. and I have noticed a more energized morning to get me through lunch. But then again I will have the occasional bagel here and there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barefoot Gentile View Post
    Thanks, not on the rug! My whole life is about eating healthy, even as kid for some reason. Before even knowing about "primal" eating, I was eating somewhat similar. To be honest I am still confused on the whole grain thing, but will educate myself more.

    That's the thing, I don't want to label myself but like I said before I like the concept of primal eating. The 80/20 rule definitely applies to me when I read about it. For breakfast I have stopped with the bread, bagels, etc. and I have noticed a more energized morning to get me through lunch. But then again I will have the occasional bagel here and there.
    there are varying opinions across the internet on the idea of paleo or primal eating and what it means to people. if you are cutting back on the grain based products, and seeing improvements in your health, energy levels, mood, etc, then you're probably on to something. as for acceptable carb sources, things like sweet potatoes, potatoes, bananas and other fruit, and white rice are a part of my daily diet. and i think you will find a ton of other people who feel the same way

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    shhhhh...... I think parts of primal and paleo are BS. The grain avoidance for people that can tolerate them is a biggie.

    I think the main advantage in Primal and Paleo is that you eliminate crap food. Splenda Yogurt. Big Macs. Soda. Stuff that does you no good. The second advantage is that people also eliminate some good whole foods that are often not well tolerated by evertone. Grains mess with me. But dairy doesn't. Hence I enjoy dairy while avoiding grains. I imagine the opposite is true for some people. A lot of people have issue with something- like fruit. A lot of people here just can't seem to tolerate fruit. That doesn't mean apples are bad for everyone.

    I think the best plan is to create the best diet that works for you and avoids processed foods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barefoot Gentile View Post
    Hi all,

    My first post on this forum, and I am sure it will get some negative feed back.
    As I have seen in the last months, this is not that kind of forum. People are very open to discuss. In short: this is not a vegan forum (sorry I had to say it ).

    If you run that much your extra carbs intake is totally justified. I cheat too, probably much less than you, but I do cheat. Once per month I prepare homemade bread which I leave inflate naturally 3 days, and eat it with homemade foie-gras. I drink one beer per month, too. I mean, if millions of people do it everyday and are not perforce dead the following day, I can have a break from time to time, too.

    As for your cholesterlol levels, blodd pressure and ideal weight what you say is correct: you do not have. Now. But you must think of yourself in 10-20 years. This kind of diseases are the result of long periods of excesses. For sure, not the monthly beer.

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    Allot, eh?
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    Looks to me like you're more CW than PB. Can't give up pizza & beer, love pretzels? I doubt straddling the line at 50% or so is going to help you much.

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    The questions I'd ask, and the research the OP would probably want to do, are along these lines:

    Is chronic,avoidable disease among otherwise healthy people due to the lack of nutrition (not eating liver and greens, saturated fats, etc.)?

    Is chronic avoidable disease among otherwise healthy people due to the presence of toxic, rancid seed oils, petroleum residues, round-up ready monocrops, and other inflammatory refined dusts and strange amalgams of sodiums and metals?

    How much genetic potential do I have for heart disease or other trouble in my family, that I should consider when formulating my eating plan?

    After seeing the data, my opinion rests on both the elimination of toxic food and the abundance of nutrient-dense foods. But if I had to pick one over the other, I'd rather NOT eat the pizza, and get whatever else I can. I believe I would live longer and healthier on nothing but whole chickens and spinach than I would if frankenfood had a regular place in my diet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barefoot Gentile View Post
    I love pizza, will never give it up. And I especially love beer
    There's no reason to give up pizza! Try googling meatza, and/or getting yourself some chebe focaccia bread mix and using it to make your own pizza. Homemade 'za is better than any delivery place! (also I have a super delicious pizza casserole recipe on my blog-- link in sig below-- where you won't even notice the absence of crust)
    I have a primal friend who found a super tasty grain free beer, but I forget the name of it.

    Oh and just to reiterate-- don't confuse grains/white rice/potatoes with carbs. You can still be an endurance athlete and eat a crap ton of carbs... they just come from fruits & veggies instead of starch.
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