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    How about if you post a sample menu so we can see exactly what foods you're planning to eat? What will be your protein sources, carb & fat amounts~ that sort of thing. Easier to give guidence if we have more info.
    breakfast: protein smoothie berries, almond milk and protein powder. Usually have some nuts on the side and coconut oil drizzled
    lunch- turkey, avocado maybe a tomato salad, nuts on the side maybe dark chocolate
    dinner- rotisserie chicken, some greens
    after dinner- i usually like to have flax crackers with almond butter, maybe a handful of nuts and some dark chocolate

    I am worried about my nut intake, any ideas for other snacks? Is this all too high fat?

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    I'd cut out all of the nuts, almond milk and protein power.

    Now there's room for all the veggies in the world (and a few eggs....)

    When I first went primal I was worried about snacking, and hit up the nuts a lot. It's something a lot of new converts do. But as you increase your fat levels high enough (having a hot meal dripping in fat for breakfast did the trick for me) then I was gradually able to wean myself off the snacks completely.

    I suspect that you have a lot of learned behaviours about eating frequency and snacking, and need to take time to relearn when your body is hungry and how often you need to eat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeggieLover View Post
    I feel like we are all getting a little off topic here, i mean if i am switching from a lower calorie diet, even if it is vegetable centric to mostly protein and fat, even if it is more calories can i lose weight because it is more "fat burning" as some people claim??

    I don't seem to have a final answer on all of this. thanks!
    If you're coming from a low protein diet it is possible you could get away with a few more calories now you're eating more protein. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11838888

    Just monitor yourself and don't go crazy with the fat, if you gain a bit of fat just cut back on the nuts and nut butters.
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    Thanks that makes a lot of sense, i will try adding more fat into other meals and see how that goes. You don't think I will be gaining weight on this type of diet coming from a more veggie based/lower cal diet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeggieLover View Post
    breakfast: protein smoothie berries, almond milk and protein powder. Usually have some nuts on the side and coconut oil drizzled
    lunch- turkey, avocado maybe a tomato salad, nuts on the side maybe dark chocolate
    dinner- rotisserie chicken, some greens
    after dinner- i usually like to have flax crackers with almond butter, maybe a handful of nuts and some dark chocolate

    I am worried about my nut intake, any ideas for other snacks? Is this all too high fat?
    You're gonna get hungry with all that diet food. Ditch the protein smoothie, almond milk, nuts, turkey, chicken, flax crackers, almond butter and all that chocolate. Have some real meat, salmon and eggs and put butter on your greens. Have some sweet potatoes or other roots and tubers, too.
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    Just continue to eat the fruit and vegetables as well and eat until satiety. You shouldn't gain weight but if you do just cut down on the nuts.

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    Another vote here on the real meat...so many more nutrients in ruminants than poultry

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    I really only turn to the poultry if I've gotten plenty of fat but still need more protein on the day. It's tough to get enough fat with chicken/turkey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abc123 View Post
    My guess & understanding..

    in the fundamental sense, assuming metabolism is perfectly fresh, healed, in balance & running pure & healthy, calories in/calories out are the only thing that matters.. My concern is, I don't know 1 person (with the exception of the immune system & digestive system of an infant) that has a metabolism that doesn't need to be healed, or consistently in the repair shop.. As you age, my guess is, it becomes impossible to run a constantly "healthy" metabolism..

    The best diet is one built to sync with your particular body, genetics, & immune system, @ that particular time.. "Listen to your body".. "Understand your body & its reactions to certain foods".. No 2 bodies are the same, we are all unique snowflakes, no absolute principle applies to the same body, all the time.. & as we eat everyday, your body adapts, inflames, changes, reacts, etc. to what you've eaten from years past..

    Do you have high blood pressure? Is there anything in your gene pool that exposes you to threats others may not be threatened by? How stressed do you get @ work? Do you have a sugar sensitivity? Do you a severe gluten intolerance & if you do, how many years of eating gluten did you endure before you realizing certain foods were creating leaky gut? How much alcohol are you drinking & how long have you drank? We all have damage, I don't know anyone who doesn't.. The question is, to what extent is your damage & how you can repair & "heal", with what foods.. All these questions affect the calories you ingest.. We are all damaged in some form or fashion.. Calories in / Calories out is so far down the list of things a "HEALTH" conscious body should concerned with.. Biggest concern: what type of foods work with my body, genetic, & lifestyle.. Then, we'll approach the "amounts" of those foods to consume..

    My advice: Learn to LISTEN to your body.. HEAL your body first (which could take years of discipline, & clean eating for your genetic) or the fundamentals mean nothing.. I have celiac & mega sugar sensitivity.. To me, sugar & gluten are the most toxic things I could put in my body bc I react horribly to it, even when consuming some fruit.. I don't think I'm alone in this, & I probably pay more attention to how my body reacts to certain foods than most.. I know the way I'm supposed to "feel" now after I eat, so I can now begin eliminating or limiting foods that don't correspond with that feeling.. Food allergies are very common but most aren't paying attention to the little red flags.. I personally battle digesting starches well.. They give me gas, bloating, & sometimes skin reaction.. Sweet potato is totally primal.. BUT, sweet potatoes do not work for me.. Higher Fat diet calms my body, I'm now realizing this after years of experimenting.. Food allergies are very common, but many think bc someone in this forum said potatoes are a great starch & eating 2lbs of them, post workout, is a great carb refeed, so it must be good for me.. WRONG.. Try it out, your digestive system may not be healed enough to digest this correctly..

    If there's anything thats constant in this life, its change.. Learn to roll with the nutritional punches.. Your body changes, it adapts, it grows, it gets sick, stressed out, it aches, it ages, & on & on.. My bodys nutrtional needs even seem to change with weather.. this is normal, & will never change.. Everything is connected, learn to feed it what it needs in different situations.. (the stoner in me is coming out

    Calories in, Calories out makes sense in a fundmental manner, but the question we should be asking is, (IMO) how can I "heal" my body? what foods "work" with my body? What foods make me healthier, digest correctly, & nourish me.. Afer we figure that out, we can then begin playing with caloric #'s & let our weight shift up & down in a healthy manner.. I've seen a lot of skinny UNHEALTHY people.. I've also seen a lot of heavier, very healthy people.. Not all "healthy" foods, make every immune system "healthier"..

    Become a master of your immune system.. Listen to your body, nail down the foods that sync with your digestive system, then you can play with the numbers, using those foods, to moderate the scale..
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    thats true, thanks so much for the advice. I get so caught up with what I am supposed to eat/not eat, but I know for a fact that I do really well with a lot of fats. I do HORRIBLE on low fat diets, which is why macrobiotics never worked for me or raw food diets. I came to Paleo because it makes sense to me after trying a million different ways to heal digestive problems and other health issues.

    I guess part of me just worries about how my body is going to start responding to this diet, but maybe I am coming back here now because I realize my body is craving these types of foods again.

    Really appreciate all of the help on this post and will continue seeking advice and other questions that I may have

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