Yeah. I have a little old car with a ten gallon tank that I probably fill 4x per year. I recently read a magazine article (paper!) that was an op ed piece on how this woman felt guilty on vacation because "up in the mountains," she had to get in her car to go just about anywhere whereas in the city, she used mass transportation or walked everywhere, belonged to a co-op where she go cheap(er) organic meats and produce, etc.Arab countries put homosexuals to death, and yet I see everyone is still driving their car today. Who cares if Chick-fil-a wants to support traditional marriage.
Also, (and this is crappy of me), I figure my generation tried to get things righted. I remember living in a community in the 70s where we paid extra for a recycling dumpster. "Them danged hippies" pushed for energy independence and were summarily shut down as radicals who wanted to put those wonderful oil producers out of business. So, now I'm old. And I have no kids, which means I didn't create any more little polluters. If you want to get things moving, don't look to me. Rub my feet and bring me some boiled shrimp.
As for the hypocrisy inherent in driving a car when you oppose the actions of some oil producers, there are several key differences between the two situations. One, driving a car and otherwise using petroleum is central to getting along in American society. In most places it is impossible to engage in nearly any meaningful commercial or social activity without using oil in some form. Two, it is impossible to know where the gasoline in my tank actually came from, oil being a fungible, internationally-traded commodity with an opaque (to the consumer) chain of supply and distribution; and, in fact, aside from eschewing the entire machine altogether and living in the woods wearing animal skins, there is no way for me to ensure that I am buying gasoline only from countries whose actions I support. Chick-fil-A, on the other hand, is one provider in a sea of choices when it comes to fast food, and so I am capable of voting with my dollars in an informed manner that is impossible while buying gasoline.
The bottom line is that I don't fault people for hypocrisy when they have no good options--I would pay a premium for "cruelty-free" gasoline and plastic, but such products do not exist, and avoiding the whole market would have unacceptable impact on my quality of life and social participation. When it comes to fast food we have more options and more knowledge, and are therefore more responsible for the choices we make.
Last edited by Uncephalized; 08-02-2012 at 10:52 AM.
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He has decided to move his business to a locally owned business nearby instead.
He already ate there... he just may be there more often now.
Plus he and a friend checked out a new local business that they hadn't eaten at before to throw into the rotation.
We needed to replace our old daily use vehicle, we bought a fuel efficient hybrid that gets over twice the mpg.
Life isn't perfect... You do what you can.
“You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.
In the 60's, John Lennon in an interview made the statement that the Beatles were bigger than Jesus. Christians went absolutely crazy! They held public Beatle record and memorabilia burnings, boycotted radio stations and made death threats to the band and John. So much for supporting free speech.
No one likes being told what they can or cannot do, and no one likes it when their beliefs are challenged. CFA can speak out against the gay lifestyle, and gays can protest it, and Christians can protest the gay protesters, and so on. It's all "free" speech, right?
Wasn't the whole point to support Chick Fil A an effort to stick a thumb in the eye of Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel? If a public official can use corrosion against one company like this it can do the same to your business.
Since some are down on the oil business and I'm in that business you can hate me
Would I be putting a grain-feed cow on a fad diet if I took it out of the feedlot and put it on pasture eating the grass nature intended?
As for the petroleum/gas comment, you have the obvious point that avoiding such products is difficult in today's society. But it still boils down to the root point, convenience over conviction. It's easy for you (or any hypothetical person) to boycott Chick-fil-A because there are a myriad of fast food joints to choose from. The gasoline example, while extreme, was meant to make a much simpler point; that one can boycott a shitty fast food restaurant, self-righteously pat themselves on the back and then declare themselves a civil rights leader. But oops, nothing was really accomplished.
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