And he likes to 'stir people out of their complacency' (my phrase) by being intentionally provocative with false statements like cream being nutritionless. I would not characterise avoiding a 'debate' with someone who is trying to provoke you as 'lazy'. I think it's the path of wisdom on the internet.
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Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like the Perfect Health Diet a lot.
Griff's cholesterol primer
5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
bloodorchid is always right
I think what people are not even considering is that the body doesn't metabolize all foods the same. Yes, CICO is the "big picture" and is valid, but to the human body a 1000 calories of butter =/= a 1000 calories of watermelon. They are broken down differently. Plus, when you drop a deuce some of those calories are secreted. CICO is valid, but it's almost impossible to track how much you're truly expending. I don't count my calories because I know I'd be far off anyway, so I see no sense in doing it. I just try to eat whole, nutricious meals 'til I'm no longer hungry and go about my day. Plus, do you think Grok thought about how many calories are in a wildabeast and chiseled it onto a rock so he could "track his calories?" He was too worried about trying to survive.
aaaanyway....OAN....how do you know if you have a high metabolism or if you are messing up your metabolism? Is it based on your frequent "expulsion" of waste? is it the unexplainable (I am sure it is explainable...just don't know what it is) wired feeling you get after you have just eaten? or is it as arbitrary as trying to determine your calorie output?