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    Gardening, again...

    It's been a decade since I gardened, other than a few tomato plants on the front porch, year before last. I know, I know, it's hardly primal and this isn't exactly hunting and gathering (OK, well, a lot of gathering), but we like organic veggies, belong to a CSA, shop the organic section of our local market, and it finally just made sense to get back into it myself. We were part of the back to the land movement in the 70s (yes, I'm old, why do you ask??), and I gardened for years after we moved back to town. One thing and another got in my way, and I hadn't, for ages.

    This feels GREAT. I know where the food comes from, it's not shipped 1500 miles, it's not weeks old, I KNOW it's organic, and other than effort and the cost of plants and seeds, it's free.

    Anybody else gardening out there?

    (Hey, it's exercise, too...I lift heavy things, I walk a lot more...and life is good.)
    Best--
    Kate

    Still Craving Pterodactyl--my Primal Blueprint blog

    70 is the new 50--without the hot flashes!

    Goals: Feel good, be stronger, and hopefully kick that arthritis in the backside! Oh, yeah, and losing more weight would be okay, too.

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    I have a little garden that I put a lot of work into this spring. It produced lots of cherry tomatoes, cucumbers (the taste of a fresh one straight from the garden is so different than a store bought one!), yellow squash, and black eyed peas. We got a few weeks of torrential rain, followed by blistering heat, and everything died. Now I'm just waiting to start over with a fall garden! I'd like to grow broccoli and lettuce.

    For gardening related online communities, check out GardenWeb and Homesteading Today, two other forums I frequent (Homesteading Today's forum is a wealth of information on self sufficiency, not all that different from the values of the primal community!)

    Jenny

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    Quote Originally Posted by aix_sponsa View Post
    I have a little garden that I put a lot of work into this spring. It produced lots of cherry tomatoes, cucumbers (the taste of a fresh one straight from the garden is so different than a store bought one!), yellow squash, and black eyed peas. We got a few weeks of torrential rain, followed by blistering heat, and everything died. Now I'm just waiting to start over with a fall garden! I'd like to grow broccoli and lettuce.

    For gardening related online communities, check out GardenWeb and Homesteading Today, two other forums I frequent (Homesteading Today's forum is a wealth of information on self sufficiency, not all that different from the values of the primal community!)

    Jenny
    Thanks for the links, Jenny! Yes, the harsh weather's made it more difficult, hasn't it! We've just enjoyed our first green pepper, and our first tomato will be tomorrow!
    Best--
    Kate

    Still Craving Pterodactyl--my Primal Blueprint blog

    70 is the new 50--without the hot flashes!

    Goals: Feel good, be stronger, and hopefully kick that arthritis in the backside! Oh, yeah, and losing more weight would be okay, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aix_sponsa View Post
    I have a little garden that I put a lot of work into this spring. It produced lots of cherry tomatoes, cucumbers (the taste of a fresh one straight from the garden is so different than a store bought one!), yellow squash, and black eyed peas. We got a few weeks of torrential rain, followed by blistering heat, and everything died. Now I'm just waiting to start over with a fall garden! I'd like to grow broccoli and lettuce.

    For gardening related online communities, check out GardenWeb and Homesteading Today, two other forums I frequent (Homesteading Today's forum is a wealth of information on self sufficiency, not all that different from the values of the primal community!)

    Jenny
    Thank you for these sites - they're great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerryK View Post
    Thank you for these sites - they're great!
    You're welcome!

    Jenny

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    Count me in! I have a 1300 square foot garden. Finally moved into a place with a decent amount of land, so I'm able to plant quite a bit. I got a late start, so this is more of an experimental year. Lots of variety I'm trying -- different kinds of tomatoes and peppers, mixed varieties of radishes (the last of which I'm turning into Mark's Breakfast Pork and Radish Hash from one of his books), arugula, collards, kohlrabi, carrots, yellow beans, acorn and spaghetti squash, cukes, cabbage, cauli, broccoli, brussels sprouts, canteloupe and watermelon.

    It's a good amount of work, but I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!! Something about the smell of the dirt is intoxicating. And I don't mind putting the sweat and physical effort towards it since the rewards will be plentiful.

    Now I need to find all of my canning jars...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkratz57 View Post
    Count me in! I have a 1300 square foot garden. Finally moved into a place with a decent amount of land, so I'm able to plant quite a bit. I got a late start, so this is more of an experimental year. Lots of variety I'm trying -- different kinds of tomatoes and peppers, mixed varieties of radishes (the last of which I'm turning into Mark's Breakfast Pork and Radish Hash from one of his books), arugula, collards, kohlrabi, carrots, yellow beans, acorn and spaghetti squash, cukes, cabbage, cauli, broccoli, brussels sprouts, canteloupe and watermelon.

    It's a good amount of work, but I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!! Something about the smell of the dirt is intoxicating. And I don't mind putting the sweat and physical effort towards it since the rewards will be plentiful.

    Now I need to find all of my canning jars...
    WOW, good luck with all of that! I had a quarter acre, once upon a time, and I couldn't keep up. We just have a little strip of front yard that gets sun, now, but I'm SO enjoying it. Loving dirt, and compost, and visiting the garden every morning. I envy your cantaloupes!

    My husband made faux crab cakes with radish, by the way, and they were WONDERFUL.
    Best--
    Kate

    Still Craving Pterodactyl--my Primal Blueprint blog

    70 is the new 50--without the hot flashes!

    Goals: Feel good, be stronger, and hopefully kick that arthritis in the backside! Oh, yeah, and losing more weight would be okay, too.

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    Any permies in the group?
    http://www.theprimalprepper.com - preparing for life's worst while living for the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamo42 View Post
    Any permies in the group?
    I'd love to explore permaculture! Tell us more?
    Best--
    Kate

    Still Craving Pterodactyl--my Primal Blueprint blog

    70 is the new 50--without the hot flashes!

    Goals: Feel good, be stronger, and hopefully kick that arthritis in the backside! Oh, yeah, and losing more weight would be okay, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate Ruckman View Post
    I'd love to explore permaculture! Tell us more?
    Well, the 30-second Primal-appropriate version would be something like this:

    In the Primal WOE/WOL we have rejected the status quo in Western society because we have come to realize that it is not biologically appropriate for human beings to follow the CW. Permaculture (permanent agriculture or permanent culture) applies the same kind of thinking to living in the landscape, but also goes one step further to develop synergies between different elements.

    That's a little opaque, so maybe an example would be clearer.

    Let's say you want to have fresh tomatoes from your garden.

    CW says something along the lines of pick a sunny spot, clear all the current growth, transplant tomato starts from a greenhouse or nursery, fertilize, stake/cage the plants as they grow, and then harvest. All throughout this time you'll need to weed, control insects, and water. In other words, lots of work.

    A more permaculture approach is more complex in planning, but simpler in execution (work). So you might create an environment that allows the tomato plant to thrive. This could include direct sowing the seeds on a hugelkultur bed (raised bed over rotting wood) in a favorable microclimate, in a guild (supportive community of different species). The hugelkultur bed pretty much eliminates the need for watering. Direct sowing creates a stronger plant that has deeper roots and doesn't suffer from transplant shock. The various species in the guild will provide scaffolding for the climbing plant, habitat for predatory insects, exchanges of nutrients through the soil and mycelium, and so on.

    For those who want to talk or learn more about permaculture, permies.com is the biggest forum around.
    http://www.theprimalprepper.com - preparing for life's worst while living for the best

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