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    New Anti-Paleo Screed..please refute at your leisure!

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    The forks over knives article did warn you that we paleo/primal types are uncivilized. lol

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    Very true... very true...
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    First off, welcome jllundqu. Most people don't seem to know about the search function, so not surprised you didn't, but honestly it is rather helpful tool. And will keep people from turning a new (and unnecessary) thread into 100 comments about how there are other similar threads that already exist.

    Also, just an FYI, because I figure I might as well say it nicely, before someone else says it not nicely. Not sure if by "refute" you mean on the actual blog post itself, or just on this thread. If the former...There's a long history on here of similar "OMG, there's this totally anti-primal blog post somewhere on the interwebs... GO GET EM" thread requests that usually equally degrade. The purpose of the forum is not to be a reactionary comment army for whatever ridiculous health blog post out there, but rather for our own enjoyment, education and edification. The article linked is by a guy who wrote a book called "The Starch Solution" and it's on a website who's entire niche focus is vegetarianism. Our time is better spent focused on the people who are hungry for paleo/primal info, than being comment trolls on ignorant blogs.

    If by refute, you mean the latter, well... there's a lot of threads and posts on MDA that likely already address the issues they raise in the article. If you feel it's necessarily to refute, feel free to do so. Perhaps a blog post of your own somewhere, with point-counterpoint. But really, what's the point?

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    Thank you,

    my intention was not to send trolls to another site, but rather to start a discussion here about the contents of the article. I appreciate your thoughtful response.
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    I love Denise Minger. “Forks Over Knives”: Is the Science Legit? (A Review and Critique) Raw Food SOS
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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    That article is filled with so many hyperbolic, over-the-top, non-academic, and just plain bullshit claims that it isn't worthy of a point-by-point criticism. The article was not written in a sufficiently intelligent and scholarly manner to merit a scholarly response. The article was written with the intent of generating a reaction - not fostering academic discussion.

    Also, consider the author - he's selling a book called "The Starch Solution" - think he has an incentive to promote a plant-based diet as much as possible?

    There are legitimate criticisms of certain aspects of Paleo, but the article you linked is not an attempt to discuss/develop legitimate criticisms. It's an attempt to sensationalize, and sell books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsa23 View Post
    That article is filled with so many hyperbolic, over-the-top, non-academic, and just plain bullshit claims that it isn't worthy of a point-by-point criticism. The article was not written in a sufficiently intelligent and scholarly manner to merit a scholarly response. The article was written with the intent of generating a reaction - not fostering academic discussion.
    How different is that from Denise Minger's writing?

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    Also, consider the author - he's selling a book called "The Starch Solution" - think he has an incentive to promote a plant-based diet as much as possible?
    How different is that from Mark Sisson? He is selling books and powder.
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