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    Yes, this diet does have a catch.

    I eat 90% primal and feel better generally. But I really suffer when I have a cheat meal, like yesterday I had a slice of pizza and some sweets, and today I am bedridden with incredibly uncomfortable gut pain. I kept telling myself I had stomach flu or some other affliction but it has been several weeks in a row now where I have only had this on a monday after my sunday cheat. I guess I must have had bloating all the time before but didn't notice it until it was gone after a few weeks of Primal, and I realised I wasn't really farting any more. But now the GI pain I get when I cheat makes me actually cry

    So there can be no more cheats, at all. I'm kind of ok with this cos I seem to have a stronger willpower over food these days, and my food bill is lower too. I'm also ok with fasting a while, when there's nothing Primal to eat. I believe Primal is the healthiest way to eat, and I want to eat this way, I enjoy it.

    I just wish someone had told me at the start that, yes, there is a catch to this diet. Although some people say you can have a cheat now and then, some people can't, because by a twisted fluke of evolution, not eating something has the same effect of making you sensitive to it, as eating too much of something!!! So the foods you used to love might have to be abandoned (forever??) or else you will suffer horrible discomfort!

    I know this is a 'first world problem', and there are a lot worse things that could happen to me, but I am in pain right now and I just wanted to rant to people who will know what the heck I'm talking about. I am slightly pissed off that by doing the right thing for my body and going Primal, I've swapped a few minor health problems for one major one!!

    I've been Primal for 4 months now and have been losing weight steadily, and taking probiotic supplements to help me heal. I have heard that, theoretically, sensitivities can heal over time, but I would really love to hear from anyone who really did see their cheat reaction lessen after a while??
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    From 3 weeks in to about 4 months in, I had the same issues. Too much sugar, the wrong kind of oils, and specially gluten gave me massive diarrhea, buzzing headaches or gas pains like a knife in my gut- debilitating. Around 5 months in I noticed my reactions lessening. The few times that I ever cheat, I still feel like I swallowed a brick, but the stabbing only lasts a minute now, with no ill effects afterwards except maybe retaining some water temporarily. After my latest big relay race, someone handed me a slice of pizza after I crossed the finish line. I snarfed it. I just wanted food and I didn't care what. I felt awful for about 3 minutes, then nothing, no problems. I feel like my body is starting to work like it should- adapting to the situation at hand. I have to admit I kind of liked the fact that I had immediate reaction- it kept me on track, but I feel like Primal eating is engrained enough now that I can still keep up the good WOE.
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    At one year, my response has increasingly gotten worse the cleaner I've been eating. For the first 3-4 months, I still ate a lot of SAD, but primal inspired (like frozen meatballs of any quality with gluten) foods. Since January, I've been much stricter, but my responses to lapses have been much worse (severe gas pain for a couple of days). Maybe time will allow my body to calm down/heal to some degree and see these products as less of a poison, but I don't really mind the negative side-effects. It helps to reinforce that those are bad choices for my body.
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    I believe you need to stop thinking about it as a diet and more of a way of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirlot View Post
    I believe you need to stop thinking about it as a diet and more of a way of life.
    I like the cut of your gib young fella, exactly what I was thinking "who's on a diet?" :-)

    To the OP: you stopped eating regular doses of toxins and have now lost whatever tolerance to them you had built up... Bad side effect, bad!
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    I started low carbing in 2010 and it was all going great until I went organic in March. Anything with additives and OH and I are sick But in the long run, additive free is healthier

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misabi View Post
    you stopped eating regular doses of toxins and have now lost whatever tolerance to them you had built up... Bad side effect, bad!
    This.

    I find my reactions depend on what I choose to indulge in. Is there grain in it? My gut will kick me right in the nads for that sh!t. Body temp goes up and I sweat like a pig and feel generally ill and achey. Same with a boat ton of sugar.

    Fat based treats that rely less on sugar (like a scoop of high quality chocolate ice cream) goes down no problem. Indulgence enjoyed.

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    I almost wish my response to cheating was evil. But nope, I just get hungrier and grow fat very fast. I also get hungrier if I mess up my ratios with perfectly primal foods (and get fat fast). I never really experience any negative stomach aches, bloating, heart-burns, high blood pressure, anything.... I can eat SAD just fine, I will just be huge.

    My husband though went on a course for 4 days and returned completely sick with diarrhea and heart-burn. Kindda scary to think that just by eating grains and bad oils in a normal food he can completely wreck his digestion.
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    plus have u tried org walnut or almond butter on crisp apple slices.. so wonderful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leida View Post
    I almost wish my response to cheating was evil. But nope, I just get hungrier and grow fat very fast. I also get hungrier if I mess up my ratios with perfectly primal foods (and get fat fast). I never really experience any negative stomach aches, bloating, heart-burns, high blood pressure, anything.... I can eat SAD just fine, I will just be huge.
    Me too! I went off the rails recently and had some (at least home-made) cookies and two (ahem) bagels with cream cheese. I was both hungry and my stomach felt ... something. Not full but stuffed.

    When I changed how I ate, it wasn't a 'I am following The Plan For Primal Living' it was just that I wanted to lose weight and as long as I ate protein I would build muscle and veggies are good but why eat a piece of bread? I was totally in calories out/calories in land. I ended up seeing my doctor because I felt weird all the time. Not hungry, but without my stomach feeling stuffed. I was worried all the meat was stuck in my guts and processing too slowly. Feel free to laugh at me for that one! The word I was missing -- the word missing for people who eat a carb heavy SAD -- was satiated. I had forgotten what that felt like.

    I still have oatmeal (ssh, don't tell anyone! but it's awesome with butter and coconut before a long run). Because I run afterwards I expect to be hungry and I eat usually some eggs or Nik's sticks (beef sticks) afterwards and I'm set until lunch.

    After my bagel experience I just don't want them any more, but I'm sure that'll change some day and I'll just go in knowing it'll seem weird and I should eat extra protein later to feel full properly again. Otherwise it's a downward spiral. But I don't have any other negative effects that would keep me from picking up that second bagel...

    Oh, yeah, and I gained 5 lbs. that weekend of the cookies/bagels. Lost it the next week, but still, as a female it completely freaked me out.

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