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    How is everyone surviving so well on SAD and CW?

    I don't understand how nearly everyone at my school is in a normal weight range while living on sandwiches and biscuits and junk food (except a few people who just eat lettuce). My mum watches Dr Oz and other "health" shows on tv and is into conventional wisdom. She's healthy, she eats lots of wholegrains, almost zero saturated fat, and goes to the gym a few times a week (and mostly just goes on the treadmill). Everyone I know eats grains, vegetable oil, sugar, etc. and somehow I'm still fatter than most people my age. Am I missing something? Willpower? The only "advantage" I seem to have while eating primal is that I can easily skip meals and I don't have to eat as often, e.g. yesterday I ate a lot and it's now 4pm and I haven't eaten yet today because I'm still not hungry. It just seems really strange that people on this forum are so careful about avoiding certain foods (eg. wheat) that most people eat at every single meal. And if it's so important that our brains get enough saturated fat then how can everyone else's brains function on almost none? Is everyone just really well adapted to the modern diet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribbons View Post
    I don't understand how nearly everyone at my school is in a normal weight range while living on sandwiches and biscuits and junk food (except a few people who just eat lettuce).
    Bad food takes it toll over time. Most people are fairly healthy until they reach 30. Then they start developing health and weight issues.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ribbons View Post
    My mum watches Dr Oz and other "health" shows on tv and is into conventional wisdom. She's healthy, she eats lots of wholegrains, almost zero saturated fat, and goes to the gym a few times a week (and mostly just goes on the treadmill).
    Unless you're waiting on your inheritance, you could always share some of the information you have on nutrition with her. Yeah, it's easier said than done....
    Quote Originally Posted by Ribbons View Post
    Everyone I know eats grains, vegetable oil, sugar, etc. and somehow I'm still fatter than most people my age.
    Grains, vegetable oil, sugar, etc. don't make you fat. Too much food makes you fat. Eating grains, vegetable oil, sugar, etc. can hurt your health, thus causing you to get fat, though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ribbons View Post
    Am I missing something? Willpower?
    Willpower to do what?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ribbons View Post
    The only "advantage" I seem to have while eating primal is that I can easily skip meals and I don't have to eat as often, e.g. yesterday I ate a lot and it's now 4pm and I haven't eaten yet today because I'm still not hungry. It just seems really strange that people on this forum are so careful about avoiding certain foods (eg. wheat) that most people eat at every single meal.
    75 years ago, everybody smoked cigarettes. If you lived 75 years ago, should you smoke too?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ribbons View Post
    And if it's so important that our brains get enough saturated fat then how can everyone else's brains function on almost none? Is everyone just really well adapted to the modern diet?
    What do you mean, function? The world is gullible enough to shoot themselves full of flu vaccinations, pop aspirins everyday, and think the world started in 4,000 BCE. Here in America, they think a disaster 11 years ago where 2,000 people died was a big deal (compared to 40,000 people who die a year in car crashes), they put people in prison because they smoke marijuana (not to mention the almost 2 million people in prison), and they are going to require parents to vaccinate their children in California (it used to be that you could exempt...now it's going to be required that you get an exemption from a licensed pediatrician, after the pediatrician warns you about all the dangers of not injecting yourself with this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteakNchop View Post
    Bad food takes it toll over time. Most people are fairly healthy until they reach 30. Then they start developing health and weight issues.
    Hmm that's true I guess. It's amazing how most people can stay healthy for so long though.
    Unless you're waiting on your inheritance, you could always share some of the information you have on nutrition with her.
    Yeah I tried sending her some links but she doesn't read them properly and she's not interested enough. She's healthy so she she doesn't think she needs to change anything.
    Yeah, it's easier said than done....Grains, vegetable oil, sugar, etc. don't make you fat. Too much food makes you fat. Eating grains, vegetable oil, sugar, etc. can hurt your health, thus causing you to get fat, though.
    They made me fat... And most people lose weight when they cut them out of their diet. I think they usually cause weight gain indirectly like by increasing your appetite.
    Willpower to do what?
    Eat less and exercise more.
    What do you mean, function? The world is gullible enough to shoot themselves full of flu vaccinations, pop aspirins everyday, and think the world started in 4,000 BCE. Here in America, they think a disaster 11 years ago where 2,000 people died was a big deal (compared to 40,000 people who die a year in car crashes), they put people in prison because they smoke marijuana (not to mention the almost 2 million people in prison), and they are going to require parents to vaccinate their children in California (it used to be that you could exempt...now it's going to be required that you get an exemption from a licensed pediatrician, after the pediatrician warns you about all the dangers of not injecting yourself with this:
    Wow I didn't know about that vaccination stuff. In Australia there are a few particular vaccinations you have to get before you're allowed to go to primary school... I know that some people have temporary side effects and a very small percentage die but don't they still stop dangerous diseases/viruses from spreading?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribbons View Post
    Hmm that's true I guess. It's amazing how most people can stay healthy for so long though.

    Yeah I tried sending her some links but she doesn't read them properly and she's not interested enough. She's healthy so she she doesn't think she needs to change anything.

    They made me fat... And most people lose weight when they cut them out of their diet. I think they usually cause weight gain indirectly like by increasing your appetite.
    Whatever the case is, vegetable oil and gluten do not hold a place in anyone's diet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ribbons View Post

    Eat less and exercise more.
    Are the benefits of eating less and exercising more worth eating less and exercising more for? That's your decision.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ribbons View Post

    Wow I didn't know about that vaccination stuff. In Australia there are a few particular vaccinations you have to get before you're allowed to go to primary school... I know that some people have temporary side effects and a very small percentage die but don't they still stop dangerous diseases/viruses from spreading?
    First of all, what are most vaccines for in Australia? Flu? Chicken pox? Please tell how a cold is more dangerous than taking a vaccine.

    Vaccines are simply a way for drug companies to make more money. In the United States, the government exempts these drug companies from liability for illness and death resulting from vaccines. Vaccines mean more money for everyone who already has a lot of money. I do support big business, but not when they're injecting people with crap just for a buck.

    Obviously, I haven't really addressed your question. Do vaccines work?

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    Basically, vaccines probably don't help stop the spread of disease. There are certainly arguments on the other side, saying that vaccines do stop disease. (though we must note that most of these arguments are probably coming from drug companies) However when you put everything together, the evidence clearly shows vaccines only affect people negatively. In any case, most vaccines aren't needed whether they work or not. If you live in Africa, the use of vaccines is debatable. But in a modern, 1st or 2nd world country? No way. The health affects of having what is shown in that image injected into your bloodstream is far worse than a cold.....and injecting someone with that junk isn't going to stop them from getting a cold anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteakNchop View Post
    Basically, vaccines probably don't help stop the spread of disease. There are certainly arguments on the other side, saying that vaccines do stop disease. (though we must note that most of these arguments are probably coming from drug companies) However when you put everything together, the evidence clearly shows vaccines only affect people negatively. In any case, most vaccines aren't needed whether they work or not. If you live in Africa, the use of vaccines is debatable. But in a modern, 1st or 2nd world country? No way. The health affects of having what is shown in that image injected into your bloodstream is far worse than a cold.....and injecting someone with that junk isn't going to stop them from getting a cold anyway.
    The only reason you could argue that not getting your kids vaccinated is ok is because the great majority of people aren't so stupid and are vaccinated so the chance of catching polio or whooping cough is diminished because everyone else is immune. Basically, I hope your kids get whooping cough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimhensen View Post
    Primal is a sham. Science doesn't support it and that is why everyone does fine while eating grains and some processed food...because they aren't as bad for you as people on here like to think. (But don't tell them that because they will defend their diet like a religious zealot.)
    Quote Originally Posted by jimhensen View Post
    They are going to require people to vaccinate children in California because kids are dying of diseases that were basically extinct in the first world for almost 100 years. I agree with it because sometimes people need to be stopped from their own dangerous stupidity.
    Quote Originally Posted by jimhensen View Post
    The only reason you could argue that not getting your kids vaccinated is ok is because the great majority of people aren't so stupid and are vaccinated so the chance of catching polio or whooping cough is diminished because everyone else is immune. Basically, I hope your kids get whooping cough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteakNchop View Post
    and they are going to require parents to vaccinate their children in California (it used to be that you could exempt...now it's going to be required that you get an exemption from a licensed pediatrician, after the pediatrician warns you about all the dangers of not injecting yourself with this:
    They are going to require people to vaccinate children in California because kids are dying of diseases that were basically extinct in the first world for almost 100 years. I agree with it because sometimes people need to be stopped from their own dangerous stupidity.

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    Maybe this isn't the place for a pro/anti vaccinations riot to break out.

    In ref to the OP-do you really just want to survive? I want to fracking LIVE!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goosejuggler View Post
    Maybe this isn't the place for a pro/anti vaccinations riot to break out.

    In ref to the OP-do you really just want to survive? I want to fracking LIVE!!
    Last time I checked, this website is about health. Vaccines = unhealthy. Or, possibly in your opinion, vaccines = health. Whatever the case, I would think a forum about health is well suited for a discussion on vaccines.

    Oh, by the way, those ingredients in that image are definitely primal.

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    Ribbons, it can be frustrating to see people doing well with SAD. But as already mentioned, when everyone gets older, that's when it all starts catching up and having devastating effects. Think long term.

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