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    Of course this went well. You are an awesome Mom! I think we often forget how much we influence how our kids deal with things. While control is a fantasy, influence is not.
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    What she said!
    Blush... Thank you, both - seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badgergirl View Post
    Yes. But only recently when I had to edit an article on that very topic written by a gynae who specialises in helping families decide on contraceptive/hormonal treatment for their disabled daughters. I can PM you the link if you're interested (though it sounds like you've got it covered).
    Thanks, badger - will get back to you very soon on this.
    I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZ primal Gwamma View Post
    Okay CC finally found your journal. I am up to page 3..... I have a ways to go !!!!!
    I will try to read up in your journal too! It may take a little bit - we are off in a couple of hours to our annual waterpark unschoolers adventure!

    Fourth is up for navigation duty this year. In turn, they all get to decide which roads we take to get from one side of Ohio to another - really. It is my way of teaching map skills. We get our map box out and they plan the route, with me to assist with questions and things they couldn't possibly know yet as non-drivers. Then, if they screw up as we are driving and tell me to take a left instead of a right, for example, I go down that road anyway, and when we get lost, they have to map us back out of it. Of course, if they are well and truly upset, I help. We take lots of time, sometimes stopping for French fries mid-travel so we can sit and spread out our maps and figure out what went wrong where, and learn more about how maps work.

    Funny how different my kids are - First wants only scenic country roads; Fourth wants lots of interstate just to get there faster, with only a few small towns at the end. Come to think of it, I believe Second let First have the job very early in the trip when it was her turn because First loves stuff like this and Second didn't want to work that hard... hmmmm.

    We are taking two minivans this year, one for people and one for stuff. Hubby knows the way, but uses GPS in real life, and nobody wants to drive with him except Third. He has lots of buttons he lets her push...

    So - I hear the troops moving, and time to go. I will try to write tonight, just to shut the brain off before bed. The kids may be partying with their friends, but the parents have talks to attend. Ever wonder how much freedom you are willing to give a kid educationally?? Stuff like that.
    I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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    I can't wait to hear about the conference! The only unschooling conference I've been to was a day long workshop for parents. I've always thought one of the kind you're attending would be fun. DS and DH have never been that interested. Ds prefers to attend the Lego convention so that's what we've been doing for the last 3 yrs.

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    You are quite patient to allow your kids to get you lost and all! I love the map and navigation idea but doubt my ability to let the kids take us wherever! Please do post what you learn at the conference. I'm sure there will be lots of great topics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crabbcakes View Post
    I will try to read up in your journal too! It may take a little bit - we are off in a couple of hours to our annual waterpark unschoolers adventure!

    Fourth is up for navigation duty this year. In turn, they all get to decide which roads we take to get from one side of Ohio to another - really. It is my way of teaching map skills. We get our map box out and they plan the route, with me to assist with questions and things they couldn't possibly know yet as non-drivers. Then, if they screw up as we are driving and tell me to take a left instead of a right, for example, I go down that road anyway, and when we get lost, they have to map us back out of it. Of course, if they are well and truly upset, I help. We take lots of time, sometimes stopping for French fries mid-travel so we can sit and spread out our maps and figure out what went wrong where, and learn more about how maps work.

    Funny how different my kids are - First wants only scenic country roads; Fourth wants lots of interstate just to get there faster, with only a few small towns at the end. Come to think of it, I believe Second let First have the job very early in the trip when it was her turn because First loves stuff like this and Second didn't want to work that hard... hmmmm.

    We are taking two minivans this year, one for people and one for stuff. Hubby knows the way, but uses GPS in real life, and nobody wants to drive with him except Third. He has lots of buttons he lets her push...

    So - I hear the troops moving, and time to go. I will try to write tonight, just to shut the brain off before bed. The kids may be partying with their friends, but the parents have talks to attend. Ever wonder how much freedom you are willing to give a kid educationally?? Stuff like that.
    what a fantastic idea !!!!!!
    We always seem to be in a rush over here, but since changing my life - I have slowed down a little bit. I think my wee grandsons could benefit from some map reading. Althou the 2 year old might struggle !!! LOL
    "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

    ...small steps....

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    Whheeee! Hope the conference is going well. I rather miss my daily dose of Crabcakes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Forager View Post
    I can't wait to hear about the conference! The only unschooling conference I've been to was a day long workshop for parents. I've always thought one of the kind you're attending would be fun. DS and DH have never been that interested. Ds prefers to attend the Lego convention so that's what we've been doing for the last 3 yrs.
    Oh, wow, I could write volumes about my experiences! Just to let you know, I consider ourselves to be eclectic homeschoolers, as I do actually "assign" stuff to my kids, mostly reading. Back in NJ, we always went to the local Christian homeschool conference, as it was huge, near by, open to adults and kids, and truly okay with liberal Christians and the unchurched-but-respectful whilst also serving the more conservative set. I liked the mix.

    So we get to OH, and the local-ish Christian conference (getting to anything is a journey from our place in the sticks) is conservative-only, actually refused entry to homeschool kids (adults/parents-only...??!!), prayers before each class/talk, church services each morning, and bunches smaller. Nothing wrong with any of that, but it felt mostly like expanded church instead of a homeschool conference with Christian underpinnings.

    Back in NJ I hadn't heard of Unschooling yet. So 5 years ago I came across this branch of homeschooling, and upon the UWG (Unschoolers Waterpark Gathering) in particular. I suggested to hubby that I go and check these must-be-acid-damaged-relics-of-the-sixties out - alone - because I was completely intrigued but not willing to expose my kids to these potential loonies. And hubby just made the reservations for the whole conference week for all of us anyway - he said that if they were crazies, we needn't go to the talks, just have ourselves a nice waterpark time. So we did.

    You should have seen me! I went downstairs and did the total recon thing ALONE for an entire half-day before I let my kids down there. I was mentally prepped for anything, right up to nekkid kids and adults, cause mankind is fallen and without a strict and punitive system in place, people will quickly revert to all kinds of perversions when given real freedoms, you know...

    Well... NOT. These were an incredibly warm, open, interesting, funny, intelligent, loving to their kids, independent, and DRESSED bunch of parents and their kids, and I heard not one parent need to threaten or yell at their kid once. The entire conference. When mine were set loose amongst them, they told me that they had found their tribe - almost in those exact words.

    As of yet, I am too chicken to truly do the full Monty Unschooling thing, much less Radical Unschooling. First and Second consider Radical Unschooling to be too much freedom for a developing person. Really, they mulled it over, and both said that.

    We are here a day early - conference begins today, Monday. Last two years we arrived on a Monday, late in the day, and after two years of this, really wanted hubby to pay for an extra night to see us here and set up for the week the day before. We get our conference packet with the final discussion and Funshop schedule and all at check-in down in the conference center today. Hotel, waterpark, and conference center are all indoors-connected and wrap around each other quasi. We get the double-connected rooms that together sleep 8 so we have a full kitchen (can cook for my two diet kids - cheaper and safer that way) and two baths. The UWG gets great bulk rates, and it helps keep the cost lower that we are here in a February, not prime time when the outdoor park is open as well.

    Funshops are actually one-hour blocks of time, in a dedicated series of small conference rooms, where the kids themselves host an activity of their choosing. We have seen kids as young as seven who reserve a room. I have seen duct-tape creations, (the seven y.o. did Pokemon) up to real, huge robotics set-ups. Parents sit offsides, there only if the kid wishes, and otherwise the kids do it all amongst themselves. Unreal.

    There is always a movie night in one of the ballrooms (tables and chairs removed), the early movie is PG, followed by the PG-13 movie. There is also the annual dance, and the annual mehndi night, from which we all depart totally henna-ed. An annual open talent show. An annual buy/swap marketplace. An annual Nerf blaster war. A keynote speaker - first year, I got to meet and chat up Pat Ferenga!!!

    So, that is all for now, vet just called - we are boarding our Ancient One (my baby, my 19 year old tomcat, Rudi) and she wants to do a thyroid panel. I wouldn't come here if all of my boys (the cats) weren't completely safe. My SIL is taking care of the rest of them.
    I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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    The conference sounds like a blast! The few times I've heard unschoolers talk about their experiences I've found it to be inspiring; attending a conference with the whole family sounds like such an enriching experience.

    I guess we are eclectic unschoolers too. Sometimes DS studies things with me and sometimes he does stuff on his own. When we started out we did more structured things driven by his interests. At the moment we are learning Vedic Math together, he's catching on much more quickly than I am. I think he has a more logical/linear brain than me.

    That's great that you have some one reliable to look after your pets. That's always a problem for us. We have 2 dogs and we've never been able to find someone good and affordable to take care of them. We often just bring them with us, but that limits where you can go.

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    Well, here we are, back from the Kalahari. As of this post, everybody is still in bed outside of the Parental Units - I am catching up on emails and the MDA and hubby just went to get the Ancient One from boarding at the vet.

    I think I am truly catching on to this Unschooling thing, finally, and I find it much less scary than before. There was a speaker there, David H. Albert, and he made all of this make sense. You know when you meet someone who just seems to be able to put a whole thought universe together? Well, Mr. Albert seems to have done this for me with Unschooling.

    It is just my personal thang, but I can "trust" the words of someone much easier when I can "see" the entirety of a system. I found it not too hard deciding to attempt Primal because Mark has such a comprehensive life-health system, and not just a diet, and he organizes it so simply and succinctly, yet it isn't "simple" - it is actually decently profound but expressed in ways easy to recall.

    Today will be a day of washing beach towels and dirty clothing, and unpacking the stuff. We all sinned last night - hubby treated us to an all-you-can-eat fried fish n' french fries dinner at a diner on the way home. The fish was actually very light and nice - battered, but the batter was thin and crispy and not dripping in fry grease - nice fish. We all ate up as we were very hungry (having fasted most of the day, all of us) and by then it was past 7 p.m. Second and Third had grilled steak and fries. Veggie side dishes rounded out the menu.

    I bought two books at the conference by Mr. Albert - "Dismantling the Inner School" and "What Really Matters". He autographed both just for me - yay!

    Lots of thoughts swirling around in the brain at the moment, same as after every homeschooling conference, no matter the style. And I had the same reaction - totally awful headache from the reading and listening and talking and lack of sleep trying not to miss a single minute of anything offered. It took 2 Excedrin, 1 Advil, a giant caffeinated Coke, and hours of laying down with cold cloths to kill that one on Wednesday night. Ugh. Missed dinner - nauseous.

    This family is kind of funny - we get dented and banged up and dinged and laid out so often that we have actually set up a tool box as a first aid kit and take it with us everywhere we go overnight as a family. First is the sufferer of innumerable cuts, scrapes and bruises; Second gets virally sick; Third stimms off of tiny nicks and scratches and consumes boxes of band-aids to calm herself; Fourth is generally okay; Crabbcakes is the headache and occasional heartburn specialist. Hubby just carries his own personal first-aid bag, so I don't really know what he always needs besides asthma and allergy stuff. Second runs the first aid box - she asked to. Every time a family member seems to come up with a new pattern of ill-health, Second adds stuff to the box. By this time, we have nearly EVERYTHING. At least it all is light-weight stuff now - no emergency rooms any more! (First used to be the get-ear-infections-during-holidays-at-grandma's specialist, and Second was our get-sick-after-being-glutened-and/or-caseined girl. Both phases have passed... thank heavens!!!)

    Hope all of you travelling on this Country Road Crabbcakes (aka my journal) have all been well!
    I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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