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    Well in terms of preserving lean body mass, it is more than sufficient for all but elite athletes training for long periods of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimhensen View Post
    Well in terms of preserving lean body mass, it is more than sufficient for all but elite athletes training for long periods of time.

    Protein Intake While Dieting - Q&A | BodyRecomposition - The Home of Lyle McDonald
    I've gained at least 10 lbs of lean mass while losing the fat. I also ate low carb in relation to my activity levels during some of that so some protein would have been used for gluconeogenesis.

    I had been eating quite high protein for about 10 years before paleo, anyway. I tend to crave protein more than carbs or fat, when I don't eat enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimhensen View Post
    Well in terms of preserving lean body mass, it is more than sufficient for all but elite athletes training for long periods of time.

    Protein Intake While Dieting - Q&A | BodyRecomposition - The Home of Lyle McDonald
    They were quoting minimal values and the low end of protein intake was for someone weighing 200lbs with 30% bf in that article (which was not a study). There was no mention of intake needed for those heavier than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paleo-bunny View Post
    I've gained at least 10 lbs of lean mass while losing the fat. I also ate low carb in relation to my activity levels during some of that so some protein would have been used for gluconeogenesis.

    I had been eating quite high protein for about 10 years before paleo, anyway. I tend to crave protein more than carbs or fat, when I don't eat enough.
    I kind of doubt that you gained 10 pounds of muscle while losing fat.

    Adding Muscle While Losing Fat - Q&A | BodyRecomposition - The Home of Lyle McDonald

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimhensen View Post
    I kind of doubt that you gained 10 pounds of muscle while losing fat.

    Adding Muscle While Losing Fat - Q&A | BodyRecomposition - The Home of Lyle McDonald
    Actually, that article states that it IS possible... unless you start out lean to begin with.
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    And from the article - Protein Intake While Dieting - Q&A | BodyRecomposition - The Home of Lyle McDonald

    "It’s worth noting that more recent research supports further benefits of increased protein intakes while dieting, beyond simple lean body mass maintenance. Protein is the most filling nutrient (meaning that higher protein intakes tend to control hunger better) and studies have found that higher protein intakes can help to stabilize blood sugar levels while dieting which has benefits from both an energy level and appetite standpoint. Protein high in the amino acid leucine (with the dairy proteins whey and casein being the two proteins highest in leucine) seem to have extra benefit in this regard."

    Seems it is much better to control cravings, stabilize blood sugar etc when dieting...everything we have been saying here all along...so thanks for helping to prove our point jim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cori93437 View Post
    Actually, that article states that it IS possible... unless you start out lean to begin with.
    Yes, it is possible, but it doesn't happen often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirlot View Post
    And from the article - Protein Intake While Dieting - Q&A | BodyRecomposition - The Home of Lyle McDonald

    "It’s worth noting that more recent research supports further benefits of increased protein intakes while dieting, beyond simple lean body mass maintenance. Protein is the most filling nutrient (meaning that higher protein intakes tend to control hunger better) and studies have found that higher protein intakes can help to stabilize blood sugar levels while dieting which has benefits from both an energy level and appetite standpoint. Protein high in the amino acid leucine (with the dairy proteins whey and casein being the two proteins highest in leucine) seem to have extra benefit in this regard."

    Seems it is much better to control cravings, stabilize blood sugar etc when dieting...everything we have been saying here all along...so thanks for helping to prove our point jim.
    Your welcome? I never said that a high protein diet is bad for you, and this doesn't say that grains or a high carb diet is bad for you either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimhensen View Post
    Your welcome? I never said that a high protein diet is bad for you, and this doesn't say that grains or a high carb diet is bad for you either.
    Funny I never said that either in the above post.

    You can loose weight eating twinkies, but it will be healthier, more nutritious and easier to control hunger etc on a higher protein diet than one full of grains....simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirlot View Post
    more nutritious and easier to control hunger etc on a higher protein diet than one full of grains....simple.
    Those aren't mutually exclusive though. You can be on a high protein diet while eating grains.

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