Why is everybody mad? I think this thread is very reasonable. Looking for evidence why grains are bad. I mean I want to be sure about something before I throw my life around .
Not saying I'm with jimhensen, or that I will start eating grains again, but I'm not against him either.
F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.
I'm not a Paleovangelist or an absolutist.
I think that dietary choices, including Primal/Paleo styles are entirely personal, and it bothers me not if people choose to eat grains.
I'm not a proponent of only VLC or LC.
I eat starch... including rice sometimes.
But I do think it's silly for him to come here and say "You should all eat grains. There is NO reason to do it, but you SHOULD, because I think they are yummy."
Last edited by cori93437; 07-02-2012 at 02:43 PM.
“You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.
Scientific Study~ It already going on~ all the people with conditions that require immunosuppressant drugs. I give it another 10 years, about 1,000 malpractice suits and 30 or so class action suits before big pharma funds research and 'discovers' a new disease~ gluten intolerance. And the CW treatment will be *are you ready* a gluten free diet! Big pharma will of course, turn it's R&D departments to the task of creating and supplying a line of gluten free products for the carb addicts they created with dwarf wheat.
As a celiac, bread is very, very bad for me. It's also probably bad for a lot of people with auto-immune diseases, gluten intolerance that isn't full-on celiac, and possibly other issues such as type 1 diabetes risk. So perhaps there's a population out there that is fine with gluten, but more people than just celiacs are likely better off eliminating gluten grains from their diet.
Agrarian diet and diseases of affluence
[Relapsing acute pancreatitis associated ... [Rev Esp Enferm Dig. 2008] - PubMed - NCBI
Six months of gluten-free diet do no... [J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2003] - PubMed - NCBI
“If I didn't define myself for myself, I would be crunched into other people's fantasies for me and eaten alive.” --Audre Lorde
From the wiki article on gluten sensitivity:
Gluten sensitivity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Until recently, the terms gluten sensitivity and celiac disease were used interchangeably in literature. However, emerging research is beginning to identify the differences that exist between celiac disease and gluten sensitivity. If the medical history of a patient, along with clinical tests, rule out celiac disease and wheat allergy, a diagnosis of gluten sensitivity can be considered. However, certain criteria need to be met before a diagnosis of gluten sensitivity can be confirmed (see diagnosis section). Treatment for all three conditions is a gluten-free diet, the difference being that with wheat allergy the interruption is temporary and drugs may be administered, whereas in the case of celiac disease the diet is lifelong and even ingesting very small amounts of gluten-containing food could damage their health. In the case of gluten sensitivity, the withdrawal of gluten from the diet may only be temporary.
Lets see you have never properly followed a paleo/primal lifestyle. If I remember correctly you couldn't go more than a week without the call of processed grains.
You have issues with binge eating, even when you are not hungry (another call of the grains?)
You have said your main reason on coming her is you like to argue, not debate facts but argue.
You have so many food issues of your own, have never properly tried paleo/primal and you try and tell us how to live our lives?!?! it is beyond believable.
Last edited by Dirlot; 07-02-2012 at 04:27 PM.
Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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