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    Christian/Creation PB followers

    Just out of curiosity, do any of you not believe in evolution and follow PB and Paleo for the health and other scientific support behind the diet and lifestyle? Christians, creationist, etc.

    Edited: warning this thread contains content that has nothing to do with this topic... Your time would be better spent talking to a box of doughnuts.
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    Nobody believes in evolution. Science accepts natural selection as the explanation of the mechanism by which the biological community changes throughout time. It's not a matter of faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichMahogany View Post
    Nobody believes in evolution. Science accepts the mechanism as the explanation of the mechanism by which the biological community changes throughout time. It's not a matter of faith.
    Ok, split hairs... You get the gist of what I'm sayin.
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    I believe we have changed over time of course, but I don't believe that we were once apes. I also don't believe that the universe just happened to spit out a planet within a relatively narrow livable band a certain distance from a star. I have faith that God created everything I see and don't see, for reasons that I don't know or need to know. Are there more planets in a livable band elsewhere in the galaxy? I don't know, it's none of business really, maybe I'll ask one day.
    Good topic for a thread, but I fear that it will be short-lived.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justyouraveragecavemen View Post
    I believe we have changed over time of course, but I don't believe that we were once apes. I also don't believe that the universe just happened to spit out a planet within a relatively narrow livable band a certain distance from a star. I have faith that God created everything I see and don't see, for reasons that I don't know or need to know. Are there more planets in a livable band elsewhere in the galaxy? I don't know, it's none of business really, maybe I'll ask one day.
    Good topic for a thread, but I fear that it will be short-lived.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justyouraveragecavemen View Post
    I don't believe that we were once apes.
    I spent a couple of minutes doing some research and the current theory is that modern humans (homo sapiens sapiens) evolved from homo sapiens who evolved from homo erectus.[1] These species are entirely different than apes, and you should be cognizant of that.

    [1] Archaic Homo sapiens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Thinking that we were once apes shows a misunderstanding of how evolution works. We did not descend from apes. We shared a common ancestor. That's all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by June68 View Post
    Thinking that we were once apes shows a misunderstanding of how evolution works. We did not descend from apes. We shared a common ancestor. That's all.
    Um, no. We were and still are apes, by the simple fact that we are more closely related to chimps than gorillas are, and both chimps and gorillas are apes. We are both apes and humans, which is a sub-clade of ape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncephalized View Post
    Um, no. We were and still are apes, by the simple fact that we are more closely related to chimps than gorillas are, and both chimps and gorillas are apes. We are both apes and humans, which is a sub-clade of ape.

    Cladistics FTW. Animal > Mammal > Primate > Ape > Human. Each group contains all the groups to its right.
    This is 100% correct and makes me want to re-read this awesome book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichMahogany View Post
    This is 100% correct and makes me want to re-read this awesome book.
    That's a good one is it? I've read The God Delusion and The Greatest Show on Earth, but not that one. Maybe I'll give it a go. I always have to leave a good long time between his books though; he's so damn smug. He's good at explaining his science, but damn he thinks that there is nothing in the universe that Richard Dawkins cannot comprehend. Funny.

    And so far as taxonomy goes, it seems most folks do not label humans as apes, but rather put apes and humans in the same hominid bucket. At least as far as my intertubes searches could find.
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