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It is simply a form of neural processing and connection that has evolved differently than some other animals.
And are you applying this sapience and 'spark' to modern day gorillas, chimps, bonobos?
They posses many of the same characteristics that are said to make humans so 'different' but not in as pronounced ways. They have self awareness... they can appreciate beauty and art and express their own opinions about what is good or bad art to them, given access to tools some of them can even create art...
Wait... elephants are self aware too, and can create art given tools... and they store memories over long perods, morn the dead even years after passing.
Dolphins are also self aware...
How are humans the sole bearer of some supposed 'spark' again?
Reality is things as they actually exist... as is verifiable through some means.
For instance there is a chair in a room. I open the door and look into the room and see the chair. I go inside and examine the chair. I then describe the chair to other people outside of the room. They may or may not believe that A) there is a chair in the room, or B) that my description of the chair is accurate.
But, the chair is a verifiable fact because other people can then go into the room and see/examine the chair for themselves.
The reality of that chair is the materials that it is constructed of, it's size, shape, weight, etc... measurable and quantifiable variables.
A story in a book that has no other sources of with which to verify it cannot be considered a fact, it is simply a story that one may choose to believe.
There are other stories in books that can be reasonably verified... because the information can be tested in some way. Either tested as in reference to other texts (no, not more texts of the same religion), or by some scientific means.
Religious texts don't meet this criteria because you can't prove one thing from a book that is unverifiable as being true simply by quoting something else from the same book/set of beliefs.
Also if you take faith out of religion aren't you harming the fundamental basis of religious belief?
But I do appreciate the conversation on the matter. It's stimulating.
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Our body is our subconscious mind, and anybody who thinks that their conscious mind is running the show is seriously mistaken. In fact the conscious mind just may be the most narcissistic entity in the universe, it thinks it's running the show. It's not.
~ Nora Gegaudas
"Everything can be taken from a man but one thing... -- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way." ~Vicktor Frankl
And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.
As for taking faith out of religion, I don't believe that is possible, at least for the commonality. There are many sound philosophical arguments for belief but there are also reasonable counter arguments...
All the best!
The quieter you become the more you're able to hear.
Mawlana Jalaludin Rumi
Well-behaved women rarely make history : Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
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I could slightly change words and totally agree with you. Life itself is the thing to be treasured. I said to be thankful for the Earth, the elements, the trees, grasses, the cattle, the birds, etc. If I said worship, would that make you realize there is 'divinity' in all of these things?
(I'm not exactly sure what you mean by divinity, so please define it)
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