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    Gaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!

    I hate people sometimes. They see me and the way my eating works, they see the weight I have lost and the health I have. They know I had diabetes and blood pressure issues but they would rather go on weight watchers or become a vegetarian because they have cholesterol problems. I show them the data, the studies, the findings, they see me and still they go oh no I cant do that, too much cholesterol is bad, all that meat is fattening and what will I do without bread and pasta, oh no I dont want to get sick from low blood sugar.

    Does no one listen? People are so brain washed they cant see truth that is right in front of them. My best friend still says all this meat and fat is making me gain weight and going to give me heart problems.... I have lost 50 lbs in a cpl of months and I am going to get fat????? His ex wife says I am malnourished from lack of essential nutrients in grains.

    Sigh, some days I think the plague would be a good idea, there is no hope for most people.
    Primal since April 2012 Male 6' 3" SW 345lbs CW 240lbs GW 220lbs and when I get there I am getting a utlikilt. This one http://www.utilikilts.com/company/pr...ilts/workmans/ actually.

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    I always tell people to show me what nutrients are in grains that aren't more readily bioavailable through meats, veggies and fruit.

    They try but can never find what these magical nutrients are. :-)

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    Going paleo/primal has probably saved me from an early death. I was obese. My grandmother (diabetes and atherosclerosis) died from a heart attack at 56, my mother (diabetes,HBP and obesity) died of stroke at 52 and my sister (diabetes and morbidly obese) died at 56 from a clot in her lungs. After I educated myself by reading quite a few books and listening to almost every paleo/primal podcast I could I felt really confident this lifestyle is legit. Now, when you experience this breakthrough you want to share it with friends and family. Your friends and family have been programmed by their doctors, the government, "health" organiztions, the "news", their schooling, etc for their entire lifetime. It is impossible for them to understand the message you try and give them. They cannot understand unless they are willing to investigate for themselves. My experience is that the majority of people are never going to be inclined to take responsibility for their health. I used to get very frustrated like you when trying to converse with people about the paleo/primal life. I don't care anymore. I cannot help anyone who does not care to help their self.
    Primal/Paleo is not for everyone, it's for those who have committed to understand.
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    and yes, calories DO count my little piggies

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    I know it's frustrating to watch the people you love either attempt some bound to fail diet or do nothing, even though they've witnessed your health improve eating paleo. I have a good friend that lost 40 lbs. 2yrs. ago eating paleo and has since gained it back, now she wants to try and get in shape again and instead she's doing a 21 day "cleanse" with her Zumba group. All these ladies have to buy a certain book and they will get together once a week to discuss their progress. She described the diet to me and it sounded almost okay except that it had no protein or fat. How is that supposed to work? Mind you none of my family or friends that I've told about the paleo diet has bothered to read any books on the subject or visit MDA. I'm done telling them about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warmbear View Post
    I hate people sometimes. They see me and the way my eating works, they see the weight I have lost and the health I have. They know I had diabetes and blood pressure issues but they would rather go on weight watchers or become a vegetarian because they have cholesterol problems. I show them the data, the studies, the findings, they see me and still they go oh no I cant do that, too much cholesterol is bad, all that meat is fattening and what will I do without bread and pasta, oh no I dont want to get sick from low blood sugar.

    Does no one listen? People are so brain washed they cant see truth that is right in front of them. My best friend still says all this meat and fat is making me gain weight and going to give me heart problems.... I have lost 50 lbs in a cpl of months and I am going to get fat????? His ex wife says I am malnourished from lack of essential nutrients in grains.

    Sigh, some days I think the plague would be a good idea, there is no hope for most people.

    I feel less lonely now... And a little more sane knowing it's not just me feeling that way.
    Don't let anybody tell you, "You can't" just because they can't.

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    Sounds like the time I tried to explain to my friend about the benefits of raw dairy.

    "No thanks. I'll stick to pasteurized and not die from tainted bacteria."

    Ugh.

    And don't even get me STARTED on my sister's vegan fiancee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumroll View Post
    Sounds like the time I tried to explain to my friend about the benefits of raw dairy.

    "No thanks. I'll stick to pasteurized and not die from tainted bacteria."

    Ugh.

    And don't even get me STARTED on my sister's vegan fiancee.

    No, please start. I love it when others vent.
    Don't let anybody tell you, "You can't" just because they can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
    No, please start. I love it when others vent.
    I could go on and on...

    My sister's fiancee has severe muscle mass issues. To the point that doctors and nutritionists have expressed concern about it. Her fiancee, as I said is a vegan. Her fiancee was told to eat more protein. I made the polite suggestion that this might be the time to reconsider the vegan diet and add some eggs, dairy, and maybe even meat into the mix.

    My sister IMMEDIATELY got on my case for being "an insensitive jerk." I was politely told that meat is out of the question, can I please drop it, her fiancee has done nothing to address the problem but double-down on the soy burgers and tofu. Her fiancee is also only 28 and already showing signs of arthritis and SEVERE inflammation. Of course, with the high level of omega-6 fats in soy (surpasses even the amount in nuts I've been told), I am not surprised to hear this.

    So it's self-perpetuating in a way. Her fiancee eats the soy to up protein intake, which ups omega-6 levels and increases inflammation.

    It's so HARD for me to watch my sister's loved one do this. Her fiancee is literally falling apart but still clings to the reality that being a vegan is the "healthiest way to live."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumroll View Post
    It's so HARD for me to watch my sister's loved one do this. Her fiancee is literally falling apart but still clings to the reality that being a vegan is the "healthiest way to live."
    It's not your problem. He will need to have his own wake up call, and it won't come from you.
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    Yeah, but her fiancee is putting my sister through a fair amount of stress worrying about all the doctors bills now and making sure her loved one stays healthy. Ugh! Hard to watch, like I said.

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