You guys are acting like no one is healthy on a diet while eating whole grains and that you can't lose weight doing weight watchers or a conventional diet. This is completely wrong. Why don't you go to the gym and find the people that are in the best shape. Ask them what they eat. Most healthy people eat grains and lots of people that lose weight do so while eating grains. Stop acting like everyone else is stupid when primal is only one way (and not even necessarily a better way) to lose weight or be healthy in general.
Diets that restrict whole food groups can make many people binge on those forbidden foods. It is VERY common actually and that is why a lot of people can't follow the primal diet for long periods of time. That and it can definitely cause some social problems.
Look at today's success story about the triathlete couple-those guys were doing crazy hard stuff the CW way, gained, lost, gained, lost, and didn't look super fit or healthy, yet they managed to do those things. Then they went Primal and they look absolutely amazing now-no one would question if they're healthy. Just because a person can look good in a gym doesn't mean their bodies are set up, in the long term, for good health.
If grains are really so good for us, than why is that so many of us find life without them better-and preferable-in most cases? If this was just some sort of stat or study, I'd grant you the large amount of doubt (and disdain) that you show for Primal but people are giving their real life experiences and those experiences bear out significant, positive change.
I'm not saying Primal's the only way-I'm saying it's the best. It's my opinion but it's one I'm firmly confident in based upon the experiences of the good people here, the experiences of the Primal people (few that they are) I know in my own life, and my own experience.
Went Primal July 25th, 2011.
Current Age: 25
Total Loss: 126 lbs
Starting Stats: Weighed 266 lbs, Body Fat 37.6% (100 lbs), BMI 40.9
Current Stats: Weight 140 lbs, Body Fat 15.2% (21.1 lbs), BMI 21.2
Current Goals: Get a stronger core through Pilates and continue being as Primal as I can be.
My Weight Loss Notes Now on a blog page. It starts with "My Weight Loss: Introduction." Available to the public, share with friends if you'd like!
5' 9" 47 YO F
PB start June 2, 2012
Pre PB SW = 180 (no scale at home, Mom's scale January - 153lbs!)
Current deadlift 245 lbs, squat 165 lbs, bench press 135 lbs
An absolutely perfect use of the f-word!
Technically, all diets - or rather, Ways of Eating - are "restrictive." We all individually have things we Do. Not. Eat. I generally stay clear of poisons, for instance. So I restrict my intake of drain cleaner, hemlock, and GRAIN. Other people are more consciously tolerant of toxins, but restrict their intake of green vegetables.
I agree with you about low fat diets. They are usually too restrictive and lots of people end up bingeing on greasy food they aren't supposed to eat on the diet. That is why I think a balanced diet that includes all the foods you like, while staying within a calorie limit, and focusing on getting enough veggies and protein is the best diet for a lot of people. Even if primal is the healthiest way to eat (which I highly doubt), it would only help the people that can stick to it, which most people cannot. You could say "well anyone can stick to it, they just choose not to." But it might just be a lot easier and just as healthy to include some bread.