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    Onset of rheumatoid arthritis several months into PB? What gives?

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    Hi all,
    there are tons of posts regarding how people have had success with getting of or reducing symptoms of RA, after going Primal.

    My wife and I went Primal sometime in March.
    We are not 100%, due to social occasions with the accompanying slip-ups, but all in all we are fairly primal.
    We eat well, exercise and are, in general fairly happy with PB.

    Everything has been going well, when suddenly my wife developed fairly severe RA. This still has to be confirmed by a specialist, but that is our doctor's diagnosis and symptoms fit as well.

    How can this be?
    Going primal would tend to help people with RA, not the other way around.
    We are at a loss.

    Here are some answers to points that have come up.

    Yes, we do eat nightshades and always have. Never had a problem.
    Yes, we do consume dairy, but very little and it used to be much more actually. Never had a problem.
    No, we do not eat Gluten anymore. But didn't even have a problem there.
    No we do not eat legumes, but used to, wihtout issues.
    No, she does not get adequate sleep in the sense that she always feels tired
    Yes, we have a fair amount of stress in our life at the moment


    We don't quite understand what has changed, that might have brought on this condition.
    Our only guess right now - a combination of stress and sleeping problems over a longer period of time, finally causing a flareup.

    This is fairly new for us, so if any of you have pointers beyond the already available information, ideas on what to do, I would appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai-man View Post
    Hi all,
    there are tons of posts regarding how people have had success with getting of or reducing symptoms of RA, after going Primal.

    My wife and I went Primal sometime in March.
    We are not 100%, due to social occasions with the accompanying slip-ups, but all in all we are fairly primal.
    We eat well, exercise and are, in general fairly happy with PB.

    Everything has been going well, when suddenly my wife developed fairly severe RA. This still has to be confirmed by a specialist, but that is our doctor's diagnosis and symptoms fit as well.

    How can this be?
    Going primal would tend to help people with RA, not the other way around.
    We are at a loss.

    Here are some answers to points that have come up.

    Yes, we do eat nightshades and always have. Never had a problem.
    Yes, we do consume dairy, but very little and it used to be much more actually. Never had a problem.
    No, we do not eat Gluten anymore. But didn't even have a problem there.
    No we do not eat legumes, but used to, wihtout issues.
    No, she does not get adequate sleep in the sense that she always feels tired
    Yes, we have a fair amount of stress in our life at the moment


    We don't quite understand what has changed, that might have brought on this condition.
    Our only guess right now - a combination of stress and sleeping problems over a longer period of time, finally causing a flareup.

    This is fairly new for us, so if any of you have pointers beyond the already available information, ideas on what to do, I would appreciate it.
    RA is widely considered to be a genetic thing. It runs in families for sure. The best one can do is to keep it under control. Unfortunately it can be a real rough road where there is no easy solution. Hopefully its mild in your wife's case and eating clean helps keep it so. Good luck with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Young View Post
    RA is widely considered to be a genetic thing. It runs in families for sure. The best one can do is to keep it under control. Unfortunately it can be a real rough road where there is no easy solution. Hopefully its mild in your wife's case and eating clean helps keep it so. Good luck with it.
    Thanks!
    The problem is that we HAVE been eating clean.

    That's what has us so confused....

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    Iodine deficiency may be a major contributor to the widespread arthritis problems in the US. A home remedy for arthritis is consumption of two drops of Lugol�s solution each day. Two drops of Lugol�s solution contain thesame amount of iodine as one Iodoral tablet. Lugol�s solution is a water solution of 10 per cent potassium iodide and 5 per cent iodine.
    Iodine Deficiency
    Lugols is available at Amazon.Com. I suggest titrating slowly because iodine will displace toxins in your body.

    According to thyroid expert David Brownstein, hypothyroidism, hyperthyroidism, MOST CANCER, fibrocystic breast disease, prostate cancer, ovarian cysts, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, PAIN, arthritis, autoimmune disorders, and the list goes on, can be traced to IODINE DEFICIENCY!!!
    Thyroid Disorders Most Often Due to Iodine Deficiency!
    For more on iodine deficiency, see Iodine References:
    http://tinyurl.com/iodine-references

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    Can't tell you why the RA, but I've had success with the pain by eating celery. Lots of celery~ luckily, it's also considered a negative calorie food and is 'cleansing' ~ digestively speaking

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    Grizz, thanks for the info. Iodine sounds like it is involved in just about any ailment :-)
    It's sort of like everybody will find something in that grab bag of symptoms.

    What makes me a bit suspicious is that the salt we use is iodized and we like salt.
    Sooo...I would assume we are ok with it.
    However, I think we'll just have to have this tested and see how she measures up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nady View Post
    Can't tell you why the RA, but I've had success with the pain by eating celery. Lots of celery~ luckily, it's also considered a negative calorie food and is 'cleansing' ~ digestively speaking
    Celery? That's a novel one, but I like the idea. Thanks

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    I suffer with a form of arthritis called Spondylitis (it is genetic, I carry a gene called HLA-B27 which is a precursor for arthritic conditions). I know that eating starches can make mine flair up again even if it has been dorment for a while. Eating nightshades certainly won't help either, even though you say you have never had any problems with them (they are not the cause of RA but will most likely contribute to the severity of symptoms) and like anything it usually takes years of eating something before an intolerance presents itself unless of course you are allergic then the reactions are immediate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai-man View Post
    Grizz, thanks for the info. Iodine sounds like it is involved in just about any ailment :-)
    It's sort of like everybody will find something in that grab bag of symptoms.

    What makes me a bit suspicious is that the salt we use is iodized and we like salt.
    Sooo...I would assume we are ok with it.
    However, I think we'll just have to have this tested and see how she measures up
    Your assumption is incorrect. Your body needs > 12mg of iodine daily, and unless you are eating several large meals a week of seafood & seaweed a week, then your are deficient. The national Iodine deficiency epidemic is caused by all of the toxic halogen
    chemicals in our food & water.... things like Bromide, Fluoride & chlorine that displace what little iodine we have.
    Iodine deficiencies & dosages
    Iodine Deficiency - An Under-Recognized Epidemic

    Iodine-related bromide symptoms may include but are not limited to:

    eye lid twitching
    foot twitching
    tingling in hands or feet
    dark thoughts (e.g., there is no reason to live)
    depression (e.g., there is no reason to get out of bed)
    anxiety
    emotionality
    mouth and tongue sores and cuts or "sore mouth"
    "different" acne,"bromide acne," "acne-like eruptions" without "coniform." (Some iodine
    users found zinc helps bromide acne.)
    skin "cuts"
    hair loss
    brain fog
    leg and hip ache (feels like arthritis)
    rash (bromaderma)
    metallic taste
    sinus ache
    cherry angiomas
    runny nose
    headache
    sedation
    lethargy
    odd swallowing sensation (reported in old medical literature as "swollen glottis")
    body odor (bromos is Greek for stench)
    unusual urine odor
    dry mouth
    ureteral spasm, frequent urination (mistaken for urinary infection)
    diarrhea
    constipation
    vision changes
    irritability
    increased salivation
    dream changes
    hormone changes
    kidney pain
    breast tenderness (transient symptom reported to resolve)
    Iodine-related bromide detox symptoms and strategies

    Every cell in our body requires iodine and the halide chemicals that displace iodine do not work well, causing a pandoras box of disease, depending on which organs are most taken over. The most common goitrogen is Fluoride added to drinking water in most cities, next most common is Bromide foumd in most foods.

    At home test kit here:
    Hakala Research - Home
    You should do the fluoride + bromide test with the iodine test for test results to be accurate.

    A simpler test is to just put a spot of Tincture of Iodine on your wrist to see how long the brown stain lasts. It should last for > 12 hours or you are severely deficient:
    Iodine Replacement Therapy
    My skin patch test was gone in only 3 minutes! The skin patch test is far from perfect, but good enough for a rough estimate.

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    There is also this notion that if you eat Paleo you're never going to get sick, have a heart attack or get cancer and you'll live to be 116 years old. These notions are false. I wouldn't look at a flair up as meaning her diet is bad or the cause, rather that sometimes diseases just flair up.

    Example, I'm celiac. I don't touch Gluten with a 20 foot pole. At the same time, some beers don't bother me. A couple of croutons in a salad usually don't do anything to me. That said, I still have flair ups and issues from time to time with stuff like IBS, joint pain and brain fog. Point being, it can take quite some time to "heal".

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